Disc brakes - Are they worth it?
Disc brakes - Are they worth it?
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Goochie

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5,765 posts

242 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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Looking around at the moment for a bike for my wife. She's not been on a bicycle for 20+ years and as a result we're looking at a cheap'ish option on ebay.

However, having been into Halfords this evening to work out which size she needs, it seems that all "modern" bikes have disc brakes front and rear.

I've never had a bike with disc brakes and the caliper type brakes on my 15yr old Diamond Back seem to do me nicely.

So are disc brakes really worth the extra? Or are they one of these things that the marketing people have convinced the public that they need, when really they dont?

Nick_F

10,598 posts

269 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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Worth it for serious off-road use in the wet, otherwise they're an unnecessary expense - and bad ones are less reliable than v-brakes.

Goochie

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5,765 posts

242 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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Thanks, Nick!

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

287 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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Yes.

WildCards

4,061 posts

240 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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Wot Nick sed.

P-Jay

11,247 posts

214 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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To be honest if you're just crusing about they're fit-and-forget reliable, a set of pads could last years. I certainly wouldn't go looking speciifically for a bike without them, I can't think of a single thing that V brakes do better, other than weigh less, but you're talking grams.

They can be a bit fiddly to bleed and akward to change pads, but unless you're riding DH, Freeride or Extream XC stuff on a weekly basis you don't have to touch them from one year to the next.

Oh I remember one downside to them, some of them don't like being stored for a long time anyway but up, I.E if you hang your bike from the front wheel in the shed or something you can get air pockets in the system and they need to be pumped a bit to work again.


LRdriver II

1,936 posts

272 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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wire pull discs are crap, hydraulics best.

lower end stuff v-brakes are preferable to wire pull discs.

MrTom

868 posts

226 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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It depends if they are cable pull or hydraulic disk brakes. V brakes will work better than cable disks in my experience. Hydraulic disk brakes are excellent but way OTT for what you describe.

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

257 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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LRdriver II said:
wire pull discs are crap, hydraulics best.
That simply isn't true - I used Avid BB7s for a year and found them absolutely excellent. Not as much 'feel' as my current hydraulics, but considering the price differential...

jshell

11,965 posts

228 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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Parrot of Doom said:
LRdriver II said:
wire pull discs are crap, hydraulics best.
That simply isn't true - I used Avid BB7s for a year and found them absolutely excellent. Not as much 'feel' as my current hydraulics, but considering the price differential...
I'm with you, Avid cable-pulls on my wife's bike are great!!

Discs only useful if traversing mud though as it prevents destroying alloy rims.... 'V's are just fine for anything else.

Fetchez la vache

5,879 posts

237 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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As ever with these things realistically it depends.
In this case it depends on what your wife wishes to do with the bike.

V brakes have been going for donkeys years, there is nothing inherantly wrong with them depending on purpose.

I've had to keep one of my old bikes due to the fact that the baby seat wont fit on my new one due to the full suss mechanism. Is it worth me upgrading the brakes on a bike I'll only be riding on tow-paths when with my family? No, its not. Most of my downhill days were done on that bike with v-brakes, and they saw me through it, I'm sure they'll be fine for that.

My current d/h bike only has mech discs, not hydraulic, and they are fine for me. Maybe at some point I may look to upgrading them to hydraulic, but as it stands at the moment I can see no reason to, as they are as sharp a I could want (far better than any V-brakes I ever had), and have never had any issues with them.

Unless your wife is so fassion concious she just "must" have the latest and best smile but it doesn't sound that way to me. If you can, get your wife to ride a mates with disc brakes - she may not even like the feel of them.

Edited by Fetchez la vache on Friday 6th March 09:06

pdV6

16,442 posts

284 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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Parrot of Doom said:
LRdriver II said:
wire pull discs are crap, hydraulics best.
That simply isn't true - I used Avid BB7s for a year and found them absolutely excellent. Not as much 'feel' as my current hydraulics, but considering the price differential...
Avid BB7s are the best of the cable disc brakes by far. Not as good as high-end hydraulics but way better than cheap, cr4ppy low-end hydraulics.

mk1fan

10,846 posts

248 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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pdV6 said:
Parrot of Doom said:
LRdriver II said:
wire pull discs are crap, hydraulics best.
That simply isn't true - I used Avid BB7s for a year and found them absolutely excellent. Not as much 'feel' as my current hydraulics, but considering the price differential...
Avid BB7s are the best of the cable disc brakes by far. Not as good as high-end hydraulics but way better than cheap, cr4ppy low-end hydraulics.
Agree too. BB-7's are very very good.

ali_khl

127 posts

226 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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I agree that BB7s are great, and definetly value for money, but a well dialed-in pair of Avid Ultimates (especially with matching Ultimate levers), XTR-Vs or even old-school Shimano DXs with Koolstop reds are killer setups.

Gooby

9,269 posts

257 months

Saturday 7th March 2009
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Hydralic brakes allow a great level of repeatable modulation and feel. This is tunable to the individual with fluid and pads. They are very reliable and not affected by an out of true wheel. You can get far more power with multi pot set ups.

There are a barsteward to fix trail side.

LRdriver II

1,936 posts

272 months

Saturday 7th March 2009
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Well,ok.. maybe I did generalze a tad much.. but, I find you have to stay on top of the maintanance with wire disc brakes. The normal wear and tear and road detritus and crap that gets sucked into the lubed cables, means you need to stay on top of them. Otherwise yes, like both V brakes and hydraulics, there is a wide variety of standards.


gbbird

5,197 posts

267 months

Sunday 8th March 2009
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I moved to disc brakes relatively late. I am not an extreme rider by any means, but i do find hydraulic disc brakes much easier to live with on a day to day basis than rim brakes. Much easier to take the wheeils on and off, and, with moderate use, don't need much maintenance at all.

catso

15,881 posts

290 months

Sunday 8th March 2009
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gbbird said:
I am not an extreme rider by any means, but i do find hydraulic disc brakes much easier to live with on a day to day basis than rim brakes. Much easier to take the wheeils on and off, and, with moderate use, don't need much maintenance at all.
Same here, plus the 'feel' is so much better along with the power. Never been able to do a 'stoppie' on V-brakes but with discs (Avid juicy 5) it's good fun whilst also being good practice for the feel. wink

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

277 months

Sunday 8th March 2009
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Disks...
Ability to stop me when I want in mud and wet, modulated to the power I want , with one finger on the lever.

Plus they look cool .. biggrin

I have cheapish cable pulls on the 29er and hydrualic on the trek, the hydraulic certainly need less maintanance and are easier to modulate.