FR/DH flats.
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anniesdad

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14,589 posts

261 months

Tuesday 31st March 2009
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Need to get some new pedals for my FR bike. I run V12 mags on my XC bike and never had a problem with them but was thinking of Kona Wah Wah's, nice big platform, seem to have good/strong bearings and all at a reasonable price, but I've never even seen a pair nevermind tried them.

Would love Burgtec but can't justify the cost and have dismissed 50/50's as they do have bearing issues.

Any recommendations?

S

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

287 months

Tuesday 31st March 2009
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Shimano DX if you can find them?


-C-

518 posts

218 months

Tuesday 31st March 2009
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Wah Wah's have a good reputation.

Easton Flatboys also very highly rated too.

anniesdad

Original Poster:

14,589 posts

261 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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Exciting thread this one.....hehe

I've decided on the Wah Wah's - Rico, I'm gonna change the Kona logo to Intense. wink

biggrin

vz-r_dave

3,469 posts

241 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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Clips wink

anniesdad

Original Poster:

14,589 posts

261 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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vz-r_dave said:
Clips wink
Err thanks.

These are for a FREERIDE bike..

smile

Moose.

5,345 posts

264 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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Why not stick with the mag V12s? Never had a problem with mine smile

Floor Tom

419 posts

208 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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anniesdad said:
vz-r_dave said:
Clips wink
Err thanks.

These are for a FREERIDE bike..

smile
I'v been freeriding with clips before smile. Done a load of northshore, drops, skinnies and all that lot. Still they are not ideal.
As a clipped in downhill racer I don't really have much experience but I do have a lot of friends with flats experience. From what I can tell from them Burgtec's are really fat and not worth the money, V8/12's are not very grippy, Shimano whatever they are called have tiny little pins that get sheared off if a rock so much as looks at them (this is first hand experience as these were the pedals I used before getting clips. Bloody hatefull pedals), Atomlab's are very grippy AND you can replace the pins when they get wasted because they screw in from the back, however they have a fancy pedal body ejection system which WILL engage when you have landed a huge drop (by fancy ejection system I mean inherant design flaw, loosing a pedal body off the axle is not very fun), and Kona Wah Wahs seem to be pretty good so far.
I'm thinking of going back to flats or at least trying them as I have never used 5/10's, I think I will probably be getting the Wah Wahs
If you want something special/expensive the twenty6 pedals are nice as are the straightline's but probably not worth the extra

mk1fan

10,847 posts

248 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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Get a pair of five10 shoes. They make even egg-beaters grippy.

I run Wellgo V8 and V12 copies and feel locked in with the Five10's

Rico

7,917 posts

278 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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anniesdad said:
I've decided on the Wah Wah's - Rico, I'm gonna change the Kona logo to Intense. wink
I do wish you would stop making it out like the logo change was all your idea!!!! rofl

still reckon Eastons are cooler....

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

287 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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Floor Tom said:
anniesdad said:
vz-r_dave said:
Clips wink
Err thanks.

These are for a FREERIDE bike..

smile
I'v been freeriding with clips before smile. Done a load of northshore, drops, skinnies and all that lot. Still they are not ideal.
As a clipped in downhill racer I don't really have much experience but I do have a lot of friends with flats experience. From what I can tell from them Burgtec's are really fat and not worth the money, V8/12's are not very grippy, Shimano whatever they are called have tiny little pins that get sheared off if a rock so much as looks at them (this is first hand experience as these were the pedals I used before getting clips. Bloody hatefull pedals), Atomlab's are very grippy AND you can replace the pins when they get wasted because they screw in from the back, however they have a fancy pedal body ejection system which WILL engage when you have landed a huge drop (by fancy ejection system I mean inherant design flaw, loosing a pedal body off the axle is not very fun), and Kona Wah Wahs seem to be pretty good so far.
I'm thinking of going back to flats or at least trying them as I have never used 5/10's, I think I will probably be getting the Wah Wahs
If you want something special/expensive the twenty6 pedals are nice as are the straightline's but probably not worth the extra
I exclusively ride SPD's, and its never caused me any issues jumping, styling, larging off big things, crashing my brains out and generally riding far too fast.

The whole argument of SPDs vs Flats is merely a personal choice.

Even at Caersws in minging muddy conditions, I was engaging and disengaging without any issues...

anniesdad

Original Poster:

14,589 posts

261 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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Moose. said:
Why not stick with the mag V12s? Never had a problem with mine smile
Yeah I know, I ride V12's with 5-10's and they are pretty bloody good, but sometimes I want lots of grip but also a little bit of movement to readjust as if the foot does slip it's sometimes not easy to readjust on the fly as it's then gripping your foot in the wrong position and I don't really want to be thinking about foot position when focussing on a decent.

Sessioning drops, I often find that I'm standing on the pedals, stalling the bike whilst I'm faffing getting my feet right and then.....GO!!

There's certainly a method to the madness with SPD's, but they're not for me. Tried 'em, don't like 'em. But that's just me.

hondafanatic

4,969 posts

224 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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neil_bolton said:
Floor Tom said:
anniesdad said:
vz-r_dave said:
Clips wink
Err thanks.

These are for a FREERIDE bike..

smile
I'v been freeriding with clips before smile. Done a load of northshore, drops, skinnies and all that lot. Still they are not ideal.
As a clipped in downhill racer I don't really have much experience but I do have a lot of friends with flats experience. From what I can tell from them Burgtec's are really fat and not worth the money, V8/12's are not very grippy, Shimano whatever they are called have tiny little pins that get sheared off if a rock so much as looks at them (this is first hand experience as these were the pedals I used before getting clips. Bloody hatefull pedals), Atomlab's are very grippy AND you can replace the pins when they get wasted because they screw in from the back, however they have a fancy pedal body ejection system which WILL engage when you have landed a huge drop (by fancy ejection system I mean inherant design flaw, loosing a pedal body off the axle is not very fun), and Kona Wah Wahs seem to be pretty good so far.
I'm thinking of going back to flats or at least trying them as I have never used 5/10's, I think I will probably be getting the Wah Wahs
If you want something special/expensive the twenty6 pedals are nice as are the straightline's but probably not worth the extra
I exclusively ride SPD's, and its never caused me any issues jumping, styling, larging off big things, crashing my brains out and generally riding far too fast.

The whole argument of SPDs vs Flats is merely a personal choice.

Even at Caersws in minging muddy conditions, I was engaging and disengaging without any issues...
Except....except that really gay fall that happened to me only because I had SPDs.

You know the one. Where you stall on a technical, very slow, almost trackstand, pointing downwards, sheer drop to one side, then your 'mate' accidently brushes past you with his shoulder and you do that really slow gay fall and land while still connected to the bike...

O how they laughed....the fkers.

asbo

26,140 posts

237 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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hondafanatic said:
neil_bolton said:
Floor Tom said:
anniesdad said:
vz-r_dave said:
Clips wink
Err thanks.

These are for a FREERIDE bike..

smile
I'v been freeriding with clips before smile. Done a load of northshore, drops, skinnies and all that lot. Still they are not ideal.
As a clipped in downhill racer I don't really have much experience but I do have a lot of friends with flats experience. From what I can tell from them Burgtec's are really fat and not worth the money, V8/12's are not very grippy, Shimano whatever they are called have tiny little pins that get sheared off if a rock so much as looks at them (this is first hand experience as these were the pedals I used before getting clips. Bloody hatefull pedals), Atomlab's are very grippy AND you can replace the pins when they get wasted because they screw in from the back, however they have a fancy pedal body ejection system which WILL engage when you have landed a huge drop (by fancy ejection system I mean inherant design flaw, loosing a pedal body off the axle is not very fun), and Kona Wah Wahs seem to be pretty good so far.
I'm thinking of going back to flats or at least trying them as I have never used 5/10's, I think I will probably be getting the Wah Wahs
If you want something special/expensive the twenty6 pedals are nice as are the straightline's but probably not worth the extra
I exclusively ride SPD's, and its never caused me any issues jumping, styling, larging off big things, crashing my brains out and generally riding far too fast.

The whole argument of SPDs vs Flats is merely a personal choice.

Even at Caersws in minging muddy conditions, I was engaging and disengaging without any issues...
Except....except that really gay fall that happened to me only because I had SPDs.

You know the one. Where you stall on a technical, very slow, almost trackstand, pointing downwards, sheer drop to one side, then your 'mate' accidently brushes past you with his shoulder and you do that really slow gay fall and land while still connected to the bike...

O how they laughed....the fkers.
hehe

I did this on Tuesday night (have just started using SPD's and XC/Free-ride for that matter) and ripped my arm a new ass-hole. It hurt a lot.

However, I prefer the connected feel you get with SPD's and I'm sure it makes you more efficient on the bike.

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

287 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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asbo said:
hondafanatic said:
neil_bolton said:
Floor Tom said:
anniesdad said:
vz-r_dave said:
Clips wink
Err thanks.

These are for a FREERIDE bike..

smile
I'v been freeriding with clips before smile. Done a load of northshore, drops, skinnies and all that lot. Still they are not ideal.
As a clipped in downhill racer I don't really have much experience but I do have a lot of friends with flats experience. From what I can tell from them Burgtec's are really fat and not worth the money, V8/12's are not very grippy, Shimano whatever they are called have tiny little pins that get sheared off if a rock so much as looks at them (this is first hand experience as these were the pedals I used before getting clips. Bloody hatefull pedals), Atomlab's are very grippy AND you can replace the pins when they get wasted because they screw in from the back, however they have a fancy pedal body ejection system which WILL engage when you have landed a huge drop (by fancy ejection system I mean inherant design flaw, loosing a pedal body off the axle is not very fun), and Kona Wah Wahs seem to be pretty good so far.
I'm thinking of going back to flats or at least trying them as I have never used 5/10's, I think I will probably be getting the Wah Wahs
If you want something special/expensive the twenty6 pedals are nice as are the straightline's but probably not worth the extra
I exclusively ride SPD's, and its never caused me any issues jumping, styling, larging off big things, crashing my brains out and generally riding far too fast.

The whole argument of SPDs vs Flats is merely a personal choice.

Even at Caersws in minging muddy conditions, I was engaging and disengaging without any issues...
Except....except that really gay fall that happened to me only because I had SPDs.

You know the one. Where you stall on a technical, very slow, almost trackstand, pointing downwards, sheer drop to one side, then your 'mate' accidently brushes past you with his shoulder and you do that really slow gay fall and land while still connected to the bike...

O how they laughed....the fkers.
hehe

I did this on Tuesday night (have just started using SPD's and XC/Free-ride for that matter) and ripped my arm a new ass-hole. It hurt a lot.

However, I prefer the connected feel you get with SPD's and I'm sure it makes you more efficient on the bike.
I took the new missus to where I learnt to ride off road (Ham Hill) and pointed out the section of singletrack with a neat 20 ft drop to the one side, full of brambles.

I explained that one day, for some reason, I'd got a bit squirrely along this trail, wobbled, and whilst clipped in, fell head first into the brambles.

Of course, I was clipped in, stuck in sodding painful brambles, and riding on my own. I couldn't for the life of me, get my feet unclipped. To make it worse, I'd got into such a painful position I couldn't move up or down in order to wriggle around and get my feet out.

It took half an hour of whimpering loudly until a rider found me and helped me out hehe

Still to this day after nearly 20 years of riding, and 15 of those on SPD's, I still have the odd, 1mph, wibbly wobbly, oh feck moment as I gracefully topple over still clipped in.

Usually after dusting some huge jump in style.