Review of Lightweight Standard III Tubular Wheels
Review of Lightweight Standard III Tubular Wheels
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CAB

Original Poster:

554 posts

241 months

Sunday 9th August 2009
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Anybody had a bash with these tub's have any thoughts

Lots f reviews of the zipp equivalent but very few for these

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Lightweight_Stan...

Yours views would be much appreciated

Thanks CAB

insanojackson

6,003 posts

267 months

Sunday 9th August 2009
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1350 notes for a bloody wheel? no thanks

CAB

Original Poster:

554 posts

241 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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insanojackson said:
1350 notes for a bloody wheel? no thanks
a. not really a great review
b. should never assume what the purchase price is

Thanks

CAB

Gooby

9,269 posts

257 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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CAB said:
insanojackson said:
1350 notes for a bloody wheel? no thanks
a. not really a great review
b. should never assume what the purchase price is

Thanks

CAB
Not an assumption - says so at the top of page, I agree, a lot of money for wheels. You would have to be seriously good to warrant the benefit of those wheels....

LRdriver II

1,936 posts

272 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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They rock!

they look good, are IMMENSELY stiff, extremely light and many pros ride em.

So if you can hack the annoyances of riding tubs,then they are rock solid and dont have any of the low rider weight limits that Zipps have.

Only issue is that any damage rim/spokes/hub whatever is either a write-off or needs to sent back to Lightweight for repairs

I want a pair of Ventoux Lightweights for my Colnago

Parsnip

3,208 posts

211 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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Gooby said:
You would have to be seriously good to warrant the benefit of those wheels....
bks. If someone has the money and wants to spend it, why not - you will feel a huge difference between a set of LW wheels and normal training wheels.



CAB

Original Poster:

554 posts

241 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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Have an old set of campag eurus (which are slightly aero..) so debating whether there wil be a noticeable improvement.

Thing that appeals is that they weigh about the same as a pair of zipp 202s and my bid isnt far off what they cost...

CAB

LRdriver II

1,936 posts

272 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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BFOD..

Weird place this pedal forum on PH.. as Petrolheads we all love the forefront of technology and all that, we run huuuge threads extolling the virtues of ie, the Mclaren F1 etc etc.. yet when it comes to bikes, everybody goes all audax-weirdy-beardy and waffles on about how if you cant ride at least a 50km hour run, you are not allowed or worthy to spend more than a bag chips on a poxy halfords bike. Also think of the amount of guys on here who ride World Championship caliber DH bikes... We dont give them any grief for buying a 6" travel rig when really they could do the same job on a hardtail do we?

Lightweight bikes and parts are alot more fun to ride, feck all this nonsense about having to your time on cheap POS before being allowed into the hallowed club by the "real" cyclists.

The OP asked for an opinion on these rims, not some green-eyed diatribe from bling-bike xenophobes!


Muzzlehatch

4,767 posts

265 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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Lightweights, mmm cloud9

They are about as aero as the average deep rim wheel, but are ridiculously light whilst being monumentally stiff. They are beautifully made; you can simply stare at them for ages.

If you have the bucks, get some, even if it's just to admire the workmanship as they hang on the wall in your sitting room.

I don't have any first hand experience of riding them... maybe one day.

Nick_F

10,598 posts

269 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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Lightweight stuff is reputedly lovely: very light, very strong - and very understated compare to Zipp and the other blingy wheel merchants.

Google for the super-light bike fanatics site, can't remember what it's called, they more or less all seem to start with a pair of Lightweight's wheels.

Oh, and if you think their wheels are expensive - try this.

Bling is good. MMMkay?

CAB

Original Poster:

554 posts

241 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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From the over view of the co ' - overkill .. almost certainly but still comforting ;-)

Lightweight is proud to have Certifications from Fairchild-Dornier and Dasa-Zert, who are the quality certification body of Daimler-Chrysler Aerospace, this testifies the superior quality of their composite materials. A second certificate for the highest quality standards was issued by Fairchild-Dornier. Both certify that Lightweights production standards meet the level required in the aerospace industry, by far exceeding the standards currently found in the bicycle business.

markcp

243 posts

266 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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I keep getting the same thoughts as you as I believe they're the ultimate road wheels. A friend had a rear wheel and thought the build quality was impeccable if that goes any way towards justifying the cost...

If they're good enough for pros to buy them out of their own money, they're certainly good enough for me!

Good luck with the bidding wink

Hard-Drive

4,274 posts

252 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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Lightweight. Hmmmm.

I know this sounds really daft but thier products would be sooooo much sexier if they changed thier god-awful logo to something a bit cooler...it really does look like it's been done with some 1980s Letraset. Compare that to Thomson or Crank Bros and I'm sorry, it does not compare. Small point I know but hey!

Also, clicking on this linky http://www.wiggle.co.uk/images/lightweight-std-r-z... off the Wiggle site shows a lot of small voids in the layup of the carbon. Seeing the quality of dinghy foils (rudders/centreboards) and spars that come out of small operations like Bloodaxe or CTech, or even humble Bontrager MTB handlebars for £30 from Merlin, I would not be that happy paying £1300 for a hoop that had anything less than a mirror perfect flawless finish to the laminate, and that just does not look like it to me.

I'm sure they are awesome pieces of kit hence the big price tag and Tour kudos, but are they really worth that much?

Nick_F

10,598 posts

269 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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Hard-Drive said:
Lightweight. Hmmmm.

I know this sounds really daft but thier products would be sooooo much sexier if they changed thier god-awful logo to something a bit cooler...it really does look like it's been done with some 1980s Letraset. Compare that to Thomson or Crank Bros and I'm sorry, it does not compare. Small point I know but hey!
That's what I meant by 'understated'...but if you think the logo is iffy you should see the disc wheel they do with spokes drawn on it. Lots of spokes...

CAB

Original Poster:

554 posts

241 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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Nick_F said:
Hard-Drive said:
Lightweight. Hmmmm.

I know this sounds really daft but thier products would be sooooo much sexier if they changed thier god-awful logo to something a bit cooler...it really does look like it's been done with some 1980s Letraset. Compare that to Thomson or Crank Bros and I'm sorry, it does not compare. Small point I know but hey!
That's what I meant by 'understated'...but if you think the logo is iffy you should see the disc wheel they do with spokes drawn on it. Lots of spokes...
on first sight it looks like a very expensive very tough training wheel.... actualy quite like it. quite unusual...

bit pricey though ;-)

CAB

Hard-Drive

4,274 posts

252 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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Nick_F said:
Hard-Drive said:
Lightweight. Hmmmm.

I know this sounds really daft but thier products would be sooooo much sexier if they changed thier god-awful logo to something a bit cooler...it really does look like it's been done with some 1980s Letraset. Compare that to Thomson or Crank Bros and I'm sorry, it does not compare. Small point I know but hey!
That's what I meant by 'understated'...but if you think the logo is iffy you should see the disc wheel they do with spokes drawn on it. Lots of spokes...
I'm no expert here but I don't think those are spokes drawn on, that looks like unidirectional carbon tow to me...

Muzzlehatch

4,767 posts

265 months

Tuesday 11th August 2009
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Hard-Drive said:
Nick_F said:
Hard-Drive said:
Lightweight. Hmmmm.

I know this sounds really daft but thier products would be sooooo much sexier if they changed thier god-awful logo to something a bit cooler...it really does look like it's been done with some 1980s Letraset. Compare that to Thomson or Crank Bros and I'm sorry, it does not compare. Small point I know but hey!
That's what I meant by 'understated'...but if you think the logo is iffy you should see the disc wheel they do with spokes drawn on it. Lots of spokes...
I'm no expert here but I don't think those are spokes drawn on, that looks like unidirectional carbon tow to me...
yes The white areas are just filling between the structural "spokes". A chap at the Sandown tri show told me all about it back in Feb. Very impressive;y made, but I don't know how it compares aerodynamically to say a Zipp Sub 9.

More wheel bling here, arguably even "better" than Lightweight; certainly lighter:
www.lewracing.com

Parsnip

3,208 posts

211 months

Tuesday 11th August 2009
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Didnt know Lew was still in business, threads on WW all the time about it.

The LW disc cant be that bad - Astana use them (or at least they used to). Plus, the sub9 is a bit of a pointless exercise - yes, it is super aero, but it flexes like a mofo and won't fit in a lot of modern frames. I know a lot of pros still use the zipp 900, even though the sub9 is more aero.