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Has anyone got any experience with Rohloff Hubs, I know the guys at SJS cycles rave about them and even offer a money back promise if you don't like it. However bikeradar said it wasn't best suited to off road due to the rattling noise the Hub produced in gears 1-7 common mbr gears... Is this really an issue or should these be kept for touring use only?
Buddy I ride with has one on his Trek 'Y'. 13 speed. No mechanical issues over 2 years of abuse. Changes the oil every 12 months. Pretty much maintenence free. He says...bit more weight over the back wheel. If you bend/buckle the rear wheel, bit more expensive to get sorted than non Rohloff. Easy to change gear (twist grip) can of course change gear when stationary (!), did glentress/innerleithen with no issues (as expected).
But on cost to benefit ratio, £900 for the hub + wheel is a lot of Cassettes, chains, middle rings and the odd hanger/derailleur... I know which I would have...
But on cost to benefit ratio, £900 for the hub + wheel is a lot of Cassettes, chains, middle rings and the odd hanger/derailleur... I know which I would have...
Spacekadet said:
I would love one of these hubs, does anyone out there know if i could lace it into my deemax ust rim (rear 135mm)?
Don't see why not. Just need to work out the spoke lengths required.I'd love to have a proper try of a Rohloff setup, but have the feeling I'd not like the cost
. I'm currently riding the poor-man's Rolhoff: a Shimano Alfine. It's obviously not the same, having only 8 speeds and not covering as large a range as the Rolhoff, but it's under £200 all-in and a good bit lighter too, and has enough range for me most of the time. I use a rapidfire shifter too although it is very plasticy after using XT or X7 shifters. Mine's been abused for 18 months so far and working better than ever. Just need to get used to how it shifts and back off the pressure when you want to change gear.SJS Cycles put a case for the rohloff being better value for money than the normal set up with only the need for some fresh oil into the hub every 3000 miles instead of the usual replacement of parts the longest running hub has apparently done over 200,000 miles without change which is a lot of cassette changes, they put their argument here.
http://www.sjscycles.com/thornpdf/Thorn_Sterling_l...
For more info on the hub see here:
http://www.thorncycles.co.uk/thornpdf/ThornLivingW...
If that's not fancy enough they even do 24 carat gold ones...
http://www.rohloff.de/en/news/news_rss/news_lang/i...
Anyone any experience, with them?
http://www.sjscycles.com/thornpdf/Thorn_Sterling_l...
For more info on the hub see here:
http://www.thorncycles.co.uk/thornpdf/ThornLivingW...
If that's not fancy enough they even do 24 carat gold ones...
http://www.rohloff.de/en/news/news_rss/news_lang/i...
Anyone any experience, with them?
I would have bought one for my MTB tandem, but they don't do a 145mm hub. That said I know a chap that has one on his Ventana MTB full sus tandem and he loves it. He's also never had a problem with it and wouldn't hesitate in recommending them. The ONLY down side is that they take a short while to bed in - the noise you mentioned quietens down through use. The only issue I have with them is I don't personally like twist grip shifters but the Rolly solution is supposed to be one o fthe best set-ups.
They are apparently very common on Tandems as they are tough enough to cope with the high chain loading you get on them - which makes them ideal for MTB use when your blasting up a short climb. They also make avery strong wheel as there is the dish is symmetrical.
At some point in the future I'm going to get a Nicolai full sus tandem and build it up with Rolly hub.
They are apparently very common on Tandems as they are tough enough to cope with the high chain loading you get on them - which makes them ideal for MTB use when your blasting up a short climb. They also make avery strong wheel as there is the dish is symmetrical.
At some point in the future I'm going to get a Nicolai full sus tandem and build it up with Rolly hub.
Mate of mine has had a succession of lovely bikes and currently has a 2008 Lapierre 714...
He was working in Scotland recently (without his bike) and him a few colleagues hired bikes to try out the local hills.... they all ended up with bikes with in-hub gear systems....can't remember whether he had Rohloff or if they had the cheaper Shimao equivalent..
he absolutley raved about it! to the xtent he's on the brink of selling up in order to get one...changing gear whilst stationary and a smooth transmission all the time (no gunk colecting on sprockets and cassette etc...) were the things he noticed most..
The negaitives? the feeling of additonal weight at the back, and getting used to what looks like a single speed bike...he wasn't sure about that at all...
He was working in Scotland recently (without his bike) and him a few colleagues hired bikes to try out the local hills.... they all ended up with bikes with in-hub gear systems....can't remember whether he had Rohloff or if they had the cheaper Shimao equivalent..
he absolutley raved about it! to the xtent he's on the brink of selling up in order to get one...changing gear whilst stationary and a smooth transmission all the time (no gunk colecting on sprockets and cassette etc...) were the things he noticed most..
The negaitives? the feeling of additonal weight at the back, and getting used to what looks like a single speed bike...he wasn't sure about that at all...
one of my riding buddies has one on a nucleon and its coming up for 5 years old. works very well in the scottihs grampians. can change under full load and durabiltiy/ knocking is definately not an issue.
Another collegue had one on his Stinky but had issues with punctures, good rider but cant hop/ lift the bike over stuff so was blaming the back end weight for all his punctures. so he shifted back to mechs, and he hasnt an issue since.
If i have a spare £800 i would be seriously looking at one, i had the option when i had my bike built up, was USD to GBP conversion at the time it was 2:1, wish i had gone for it now.
Another collegue had one on his Stinky but had issues with punctures, good rider but cant hop/ lift the bike over stuff so was blaming the back end weight for all his punctures. so he shifted back to mechs, and he hasnt an issue since.
If i have a spare £800 i would be seriously looking at one, i had the option when i had my bike built up, was USD to GBP conversion at the time it was 2:1, wish i had gone for it now.
Agoogy said:
Mate of mine has had a succession of lovely bikes and currently has a 2008 Lapierre 714...
He was working in Scotland recently (without his bike) and him a few colleagues hired bikes to try out the local hills.... they all ended up with bikes with in-hub gear systems....can't remember whether he had Rohloff or if they had the cheaper Shimao equivalent..
he absolutley raved about it! to the xtent he's on the brink of selling up in order to get one...changing gear whilst stationary and a smooth transmission all the time (no gunk colecting on sprockets and cassette etc...) were the things he noticed most..
The negaitives? the feeling of additonal weight at the back, and getting used to what looks like a single speed bike...he wasn't sure about that at all...
At a guess I'd say they hired bikes from The Hub at Glentress to ride the trails there: the shop has a massive hire fleet of Genesis hardtails equipped with the Alfine hub. And last time I was there they were selling off their ex-hire complete bikes with Alfine hub for £500, bargain...He was working in Scotland recently (without his bike) and him a few colleagues hired bikes to try out the local hills.... they all ended up with bikes with in-hub gear systems....can't remember whether he had Rohloff or if they had the cheaper Shimao equivalent..
he absolutley raved about it! to the xtent he's on the brink of selling up in order to get one...changing gear whilst stationary and a smooth transmission all the time (no gunk colecting on sprockets and cassette etc...) were the things he noticed most..
The negaitives? the feeling of additonal weight at the back, and getting used to what looks like a single speed bike...he wasn't sure about that at all...
rhinochopig said:
He's also never had a problem with it and wouldn't hesitate in recommending them. The ONLY down side is that they take a short while to bed in - the noise you mentioned quietens down through use. .
What is this noise like? Enough to notice? A constant rattle? Also does anyone actually own one?
Cheers
Gnarlybluesurf said:
rhinochopig said:
He's also never had a problem with it and wouldn't hesitate in recommending them. The ONLY down side is that they take a short while to bed in - the noise you mentioned quietens down through use. .
What is this noise like? Enough to notice? A constant rattle? Also does anyone actually own one?
Cheers
a11y_m said:
I guess not...
But give me a year or so and the big lottery win and I will...
I'll do you a deal then, if one of us has a big lottery win in the next year we'll buy the other a bike with Rohloff hub... there's probably as much chance of that as finding anyone on here that has one !! But give me a year or so and the big lottery win and I will...
there are a bunch of people who have them on www.yacf.co.uk (YACF=yet another cycling forum). I've never read a post saying they rattle before. I have heard that they are noisy, but I had assumed that noise would be like the noise my nexus' have all made in non-direct gears.
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