Malt, Inbred, or nothing?
Discussion
The missus is going to take advantage of the C2W scheme and get a Myka (clearly needs FS due to all those new potholes that might spoil her, ahem, "commute". So her Rockhopper (which bears no resemblance to what it did when she got it parts wise) is going spare and was going to form the basis of a new HT build for me.
I want to do it on a budget (frame sub £200), so I was looking at either a Malt (1 or 2) or an Inbred. It will be running a 100mm fork which rules out anything much slacker I guess. What would people recommend out of those two, or am I missing something else that might be a better bet?
Also, am I doing the right thing? I've got a Fuel EX7 which I love, do other FS owners sometimes walk past the FS bike and grab the HT for a good thrash? TBH my Fuel is fairly well upgraded, carboned and pimped, and it's probably no heavier than the Inbred would be (no carbon, inferior components, Tora fork etc), so is the "real steel feel" really worth sacrificing plush travel for? I guess that the Malt would however be a fair bit lighter, and one of the reasons I quite fancy a HT is for muddy bridleways when the FS is a waste of engineering and Muc-Off, or possibly putting commuter tyres on for something that is OK to ride fastish on the road but can still deal with mild off road abuse in the summer.
Thoughts please!!
I want to do it on a budget (frame sub £200), so I was looking at either a Malt (1 or 2) or an Inbred. It will be running a 100mm fork which rules out anything much slacker I guess. What would people recommend out of those two, or am I missing something else that might be a better bet?
Also, am I doing the right thing? I've got a Fuel EX7 which I love, do other FS owners sometimes walk past the FS bike and grab the HT for a good thrash? TBH my Fuel is fairly well upgraded, carboned and pimped, and it's probably no heavier than the Inbred would be (no carbon, inferior components, Tora fork etc), so is the "real steel feel" really worth sacrificing plush travel for? I guess that the Malt would however be a fair bit lighter, and one of the reasons I quite fancy a HT is for muddy bridleways when the FS is a waste of engineering and Muc-Off, or possibly putting commuter tyres on for something that is OK to ride fastish on the road but can still deal with mild off road abuse in the summer.
Thoughts please!!
I am liking the on-one at the moment. The merlin will be lighter, esp if you went summer season 456 as mine is. Its basically a hollowed out anvil and weighs a ton.
I guess you know that Brant Richards the designer (i think) of the inbred has now left on-one and is at ragley bikes. He has worked his magic on the Blue Pig frame. Slightly more than the £200 budget but may be worth a look. Might have gone for it if i didnt already have the on-one. Frame can be bought here but may be cheaper sources if you have a scout round the net:
http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productDetails.asp?pro...
I guess you know that Brant Richards the designer (i think) of the inbred has now left on-one and is at ragley bikes. He has worked his magic on the Blue Pig frame. Slightly more than the £200 budget but may be worth a look. Might have gone for it if i didnt already have the on-one. Frame can be bought here but may be cheaper sources if you have a scout round the net:
http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productDetails.asp?pro...
urr or i'd snap this up:
http://www.allterraincycles.co.uk/product/101739.h...
Seems like a bargain, but it might be rubbish.....
http://www.allterraincycles.co.uk/product/101739.h...
Seems like a bargain, but it might be rubbish.....
http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/gear/category/frames/...
some choices but cant see anything better than the malt to be honest.
some choices but cant see anything better than the malt to be honest.
Dialledbikes Prince Albert, without question. Of the many, many bikes I've had in the past years, my two prince alberts (a mk1 520 and a later 720) were the best fun/cost or value.
Also, mike @ dialledbikes is a top guy and a pleasure to deal with - and a friendly chat on the phone will often reveal an ex demo or bargain price frame he can do you a deal on. The only company I've ever bought more than one frame from ( and I've had lots of frames). I've had 3 dialledbikes frames.
Also, mike @ dialledbikes is a top guy and a pleasure to deal with - and a friendly chat on the phone will often reveal an ex demo or bargain price frame he can do you a deal on. The only company I've ever bought more than one frame from ( and I've had lots of frames). I've had 3 dialledbikes frames.
Does not have to be new, however I think I would be much happier huying new. You know the history, and don't have to faff around on eBay etc missing stuff, getting sniped, or driving to pick it up.
I have to say for some reason the On-Ones are really growing on me, and I think I've narrowed it down to a brown 456 or a green slot dropout Inbred. Both would look rather groovesome with the white forks, white bars/brown Charge saddle I have in mind.
Question...I think the slot Inbred would probably be the more suitable bike, what's the deal with standard QR standard skewered hubs on the slot dropouts? Someone has said I need some kind of tensioner thingy in the dropout...this build will be a standard 27 gear job, not SS, although it may one day end up as an Alfine.
Or are the slot dropouts a PITA and should I just get a 456.
Any thoughts?
I have to say for some reason the On-Ones are really growing on me, and I think I've narrowed it down to a brown 456 or a green slot dropout Inbred. Both would look rather groovesome with the white forks, white bars/brown Charge saddle I have in mind.
Question...I think the slot Inbred would probably be the more suitable bike, what's the deal with standard QR standard skewered hubs on the slot dropouts? Someone has said I need some kind of tensioner thingy in the dropout...this build will be a standard 27 gear job, not SS, although it may one day end up as an Alfine.
Or are the slot dropouts a PITA and should I just get a 456.
Any thoughts?
When I first read your thread I immediately thought of the 456...A friend of mine has the Ti version but all the same it's a nicely built bike.
I have an alfine on my singular and can thoroughly recommend but as far as I'm aware the Alfine won't work with slots. Al you have to do is get used to the back to front gear changes!!!
I have an alfine on my singular and can thoroughly recommend but as far as I'm aware the Alfine won't work with slots. Al you have to do is get used to the back to front gear changes!!!
I'm not sure if the anti-turn washers will work in slots. Because the gearing is inside the hub, the chain has a tendancy to try and spin the hub when in low gears. Worth checking with someone who can give a 100% answer!
mk1fan said:
156silver said:
I have an alfine on my singular and can thoroughly recommend but as far as I'm aware the Alfine won't work with slots.
Why? You just need to find the right chaintugs and be prepared to pay for them.My missus's Dad bought one of these last year http://www.allterraincycles.co.uk/product/6479.htm... as it was cheaper than buying a new shock for his Speccy FSR and wanted to keep riding till he could afford the shock he wanted. It's a pretty good frame actually, not the lightest thing in the world, but for £55 its pretty incredible!
Which Trance has she gone for? I really like the look of that bike. Cookie has got a mint TranceX.
I've currently got the other predicament. I love my Marin to bits and it suits all the riding I do locally, but I really hanker after a full suss for the Wales trips. Not sure whether it is worth investing in a second hand frame and shock and then building up an ebay build using my old parts and keeping the Marin as a lightweight whippet, or maybe just hiring a bike at the trail centre when I get there?! Probably cheaper in the long run, and you know you're getting a top bit of kit.
Which Trance has she gone for? I really like the look of that bike. Cookie has got a mint TranceX.
I've currently got the other predicament. I love my Marin to bits and it suits all the riding I do locally, but I really hanker after a full suss for the Wales trips. Not sure whether it is worth investing in a second hand frame and shock and then building up an ebay build using my old parts and keeping the Marin as a lightweight whippet, or maybe just hiring a bike at the trail centre when I get there?! Probably cheaper in the long run, and you know you're getting a top bit of kit.
Woohoo!!! It's arrived!!!
I have to say, regardless of price tag, it is a thing of great beauty. The welds are all perfect, the paint finish and shine are superb, the graphics look the muts nuts, and design wise it's great...forward facing seat tube notch and scope to run a full rear mech cable outer should make this the mud plugging monster I'm after. Add the fact that it was with me within 2 working days, and packaged incredibly well (every tube covered and it slotting very neatly into a special box) and I'm starting to feel guilty about paying just 99 measly quid for it! The twelfty seatpost and the On-One grips and seatpost clamp are also really nicely made.
With a fully pimped ally and carbon full susser in my shed I really should not be getting this excited about something so basic, but I have a feeling I'm going to love this bike!
I have to say, regardless of price tag, it is a thing of great beauty. The welds are all perfect, the paint finish and shine are superb, the graphics look the muts nuts, and design wise it's great...forward facing seat tube notch and scope to run a full rear mech cable outer should make this the mud plugging monster I'm after. Add the fact that it was with me within 2 working days, and packaged incredibly well (every tube covered and it slotting very neatly into a special box) and I'm starting to feel guilty about paying just 99 measly quid for it! The twelfty seatpost and the On-One grips and seatpost clamp are also really nicely made.
With a fully pimped ally and carbon full susser in my shed I really should not be getting this excited about something so basic, but I have a feeling I'm going to love this bike!
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