What Benefit From Upgraded Derailleur ?
What Benefit From Upgraded Derailleur ?
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Seight_Returns

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1,640 posts

225 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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Been looking at new MTBs recently.

Have noticed that there's a trend for manufacturers to spec a higher spec derailleur than the rest of the groupset. I'm seeing a lot of bikes with SLX or XT rear mechs and Deore components everywhere else. I suspect that this is purely marketing - the first part of a bike many people look at is the rear mech and so specing a better component here gives the impression of a bike with better overall components than is actually the case.

That said, is there any benefit apart from saving a bit of weight of a higher spec rear mech ?- surely at the end of the day it's just a cage with 2 pulley wheels and a spring ? Will an XT mech actually give a better or smoother shift than a Deore one will ?

ewenm

28,506 posts

269 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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XT used to be much more durable than the lower ranges, however I've no idea if that's still true.

snotrag

15,518 posts

235 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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You've already sussed it.

ALL the manufacturers do this.

Specialized are bad for it.

XTR rear mech on the back to make people go 'ooh'.

But they then fit spectacularly cheapo rear hubs and headsets. because these arent things you can't 'see' as easily.

As for the benefits in upgrading - they ARE better, but follow the law of diminishing returns.

Lower weight, smoother.stronger pivots, stronger springs.

However - if your wanting to improve your shifting performance - shifters make MUCH more of a difference than the derrailleurs.

As both an keen amatuer mountainbiker, a previous salesman, and a serial bike builder for both myself and customers - The only XTR component that I can hand-on-hear say is actually worth it, is a set of multi-release 9spd XTR shifters. Very good.

Edited by snotrag on Friday 12th March 11:15

markoc

1,084 posts

220 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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I really don't see the value in the price hike between XT and XTR, and have run XT rears for as long as I can remember. Not overly cheap, but if you smash an XTR rear mech or mangle it you're going to want to cry.

Depends on your riding I guess, as even the lower end kit is very functional these days.

I wonder how many people go for an XT/XTR rear mech just for the bike shop/cake stop "wow" factor of people who look at a rear mech and assume it is running the full groupo.

Gooby

9,269 posts

258 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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markoc said:
I really don't see the value in the price hike between XT and XTR, and have run XT rears for as long as I can remember..
some bikes are worth XTR!

Rolls

1,502 posts

201 months

Sunday 14th March 2010
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^^^^ agree with that!
Also, completely agree that XTR shifters are indeed well worth the money.. - probably the favorite bit of my groupset.. - i'd happily downgrade the rest to XT provided I could keep the xtr shifters!