Thinking Of Ditching The Suspension Forks In Favour Of Rigid
Thinking Of Ditching The Suspension Forks In Favour Of Rigid
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TheDetailDoctor

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9,073 posts

239 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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Having completed a 40mile ride at the weekend with my Pace Stealth forks permanantly locked out I am considering swapping to a pair of carbon fibre rigid forks as it seams I an karting around a couple of lbs of dead weight. Most of my riding is on road/cycle tracks, with perhaps 15% off road.

HAve I gone mad?

Rolls

1,502 posts

206 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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I you ride for the most part on the road, it makes perfect sense!

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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not at all, carbon forks should have a little bit of bounce in them and they should make a big difference.

i trust you are already running road-esque tyres? surprising how much difference a larger outer chainring makes too...

TheDetailDoctor

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9,073 posts

239 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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pablo said:
not at all, carbon forks should have a little bit of bounce in them and they should make a big difference.

i trust you are already running road-esque tyres? surprising how much difference a larger outer chainring makes too...
I run semi slicks currently, but do also have some Ritchey Tom Slicks & WTB Velociraptors.

These are trhe forks I am considering - http://www.carboncycles.cc/?s=0&p=784&

Edited by TheDetailDoctor on Tuesday 22 June 08:15

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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My MTB is fully rigid, light and very responsive. It can become an issue on very rocky descents but it's rarely impossible, just a bit slower and you have to pick your lines much more carefully.

john_p

7,073 posts

279 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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Ooh now I'm tempted. I currently have a crappy Suntour spring jobbie (40-50mm travel), how will a carbon fork compare in weight and in shock absorption?

TheDetailDoctor

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9,073 posts

239 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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john_p said:
Ooh now I'm tempted. I currently have a crappy Suntour spring jobbie (40-50mm travel), how will a carbon fork compare in weight and in shock absorption?
The eXotic ones are about 750g for the £105 carbon steerer'd ones, the carbon should take out some of the "buzz"

Measure the axle to crown height to check they will be about the right length.

TheDetailDoctor

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239 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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Well, I've done it, ordered the eXotic forks

Raven Flyer

1,645 posts

253 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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Straight tube carbon such as the forks in the link won't absorb anything. Carbon needs a slight bend so there is some designed flex available. See the rear triangles of carbon road bikes and, to a certain extent, the swept forks of road bikes.

They may be carbon but those forks look like they will not survive anything other than perfect tarmac.

Surely a MTB without suspension is a hybrid.

hondafanatic

4,969 posts

230 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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Raven Flyer said:
Surely a MTB without suspension is a hybrid.
Errr...no. It's a rigid MTB.

TheDetailDoctor

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239 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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Raven Flyer said:
They may be carbon but those forks look like they will not survive anything other than perfect tarmac.
There are many users that say otherwise.

MAy I suggest you take a look here - http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/-_-/5360016812/

or here - http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?Mod...

or here - http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?Mod...

or here - http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?Mod...





Edited by TheDetailDoctor on Tuesday 22 June 10:54


Edited by TheDetailDoctor on Tuesday 22 June 10:56

itsnotarace

4,685 posts

238 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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My first 3 mountain bikes had rigid forks (1989 Marin Bolinas Ridge, 1992 Kona Lava Dome, 1993 Orange Clockwork). We used to do jumps on them and everything! Rigid forks are not quite as fragile as you may think

My current Orange P7 also has Pace RC31 forks, they are good at absorbing small vibrations but as above, you have to pick your line more carefully

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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Raven Flyer said:
Surely a MTB without suspension is a hybrid.
Are you quite young? I've never had a MTB with suspension forks (a Flexstem was the closest I got to suspension systems) and started riding 20 years ago at the age of 13. Admittedly I've not bought a new MTB for over a decade, but can still throw my Yo Eddy down some fairly technical trails. Fortunately I'm into XC rather than DH, so can get away with the RC30s on the front.

I do get a lot of trail buzz which can be annoying, but it's not too bad. Suspension would be nice to have but not on the Yo Eddy geometry, maybe a third bike is required scratchchinhehe

Raven Flyer

1,645 posts

253 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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Reading the reviews on Chain Reaction, you would really have to wonder what all the World Cup riders are doing with front suspension forks on their bikes. Clearly a £100 set of cheap carbon tubes is the way to go.

My early MTBs all had rigid forks, because such things weren't mass produced so were beyond the financial reach of most people. The bikes weren't sold with rigid forks because they were somehow better. I can remember having no feeling in my hands for hours after most rides.

For road riding there is no point having front suspension, but for road riding there is no point having an MTB. The tyres are wrong, the geometry is wrong and the gears are wrong. A £200 Halfords racer would be a much better ride.

TheDetailDoctor

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9,073 posts

239 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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I didn't say the forks were better than suspension for all people, but my MTB has to do the majority of it's life on the road, for the small percentage when I'm off road, I'm sure the rigids will be fine.

hondafanatic

4,969 posts

230 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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Raven Flyer said:
Reading the reviews on Chain Reaction, you would really have to wonder what all the World Cup riders are doing with front suspension forks on their bikes. Clearly a £100 set of cheap carbon tubes is the way to go.

My early MTBs all had rigid forks, because such things weren't mass produced so were beyond the financial reach of most people. The bikes weren't sold with rigid forks because they were somehow better. I can remember having no feeling in my hands for hours after most rides.

For road riding there is no point having front suspension, but for road riding there is no point having an MTB. The tyres are wrong, the geometry is wrong and the gears are wrong. A £200 Halfords racer would be a much better ride.
That's all in your opinion though. I don't agree with much of it.

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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For road riding, canal towpaths, cycleways, and the occasional bridleway a £200 road bike isn't all that useful, but a light MTB with rigid forks would be fine. A hybrid might do the job but if the OP has the MTB already then it'll be cheaper to buy the rigid forks than buy a hybrid. Also gives him flexibility to swap back to his suspension when he wants to.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

227 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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Careful with the C forks - many of them have a rider weight limit.

TheDetailDoctor

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239 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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rhinochopig said:
Careful with the C forks - many of them have a rider weight limit.
Yep, somewhere around 97.5kg, I'm 80kg at the moment & falling.

Wildfire

9,947 posts

281 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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Just put the eXotic ali forks on to my new (old frame) commuter bike with full Deore + kit.

The power delivery compared to my Felf Complusion is immense, did a little offroad with these and a set oc Continental Contact City tyres. Very good. Just remember to loosen up if you hop off a kerb!