Minor juddering from disc braked wheel

Minor juddering from disc braked wheel

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Mars

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8,788 posts

216 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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I've had my Whyte Portabello for about 1500 miles now, and recently noticed when braking that the front wheel very lightly judders. I believe I have traced this to the spokes flexing very slightly - I am a heavy bastid (~100Kg) and I tend to tow a child trailer so I am putting a reasonable amount of strain through the disc brake and spokes.

Does my analysis sound likely?... and if so, would a minor tensioning of the spokes (say 1/4 turn each) resolve this do you think?

I know you might say "go visit your LBS" and I might yet but I like to do things myself, so if it's an easy fix, I would like to have a go.

robpearson

441 posts

204 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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i felt something very similar a while back, i eventually identified it to having changed tyres...

OneDs

1,628 posts

178 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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It might just be some contaminated pads or them not sitting in the calliper correctly, I'd take them out give them and your disc's a clean with some meths and then rebed them in 10 to 20 quick stops from 20mph.

itsnotarace

4,685 posts

211 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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Spoke tension would not cause brake juddering. Warped disc, or brake residue build up, or incorrectly fitted pads

Mars

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8,788 posts

216 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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Thanks. I haven't changed tyres and two replies advising me to check pads - I'll do just that. Appreciate it..!! beer

Pablo16v

2,115 posts

199 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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As itsnotarace said it might be a warped disc. Turn the bike upside down, spin the wheel, and look closely at the disc spinning between the pads.......if the disc is warped you'll be able to see it move from side to side ever so slightly.

Ironballs

363 posts

177 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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A warped disc can usually be cured by tweaking with an adjustable wrench - if that's the problem. Juddering is often dirty discs

Mars

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8,788 posts

216 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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It's definitely not warped, you can clearly see the spacing between the disc and the caliper housing. Plus, the juddering (it really is quite minor) is several times per revolution.

Now that two people have commented about contaminated discs/pads I will give them a once over with some suitably oil-free spirit.

robsti

12,241 posts

208 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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Could be the wheel has lost tension ! This happened to me when I was towing a tagalong!

Mars

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216 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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robsti said:
Could be the wheel has lost tension ! This happened to me when I was towing a tagalong!
Thanks. I really think there is something in this. The front brake particularly gets a bit of a pounding, even at the relatively low speeds we travel. All that energy is directed through the spokes. It wouldn't surprise me if they needed a bit of tensioning. It is still fairly new and you tend to expect to tweek things here and there, no?

BliarOut

72,857 posts

241 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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Loose headstock?

Mars

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216 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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BliarOut said:
Loose headstock?
Another good suggestion thumbup thanks. I had recently changed my stem when I noticed the issue. I have checked movement with the forks and there is none but it's something I will reconsider when I have another play with it (tomorrow night).

Thanks.

johnnyboy666

98 posts

180 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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Working on the idea of headset issues, Suspension fork bushings could be a suspect.

Mars

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216 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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johnnyboy666 said:
Working on the idea of headset issues, Suspension fork bushings could be a suspect.
I have no sus - I am looking to buy a sus fork to "try" but haven't yet. biggrin

It's the bigger one.