Future of Santa Pod?
Future of Santa Pod?
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Nitro Head UK

Original Poster:

73 posts

190 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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What do you think the future of Santa pod is going to be with the impact of the brand new facility , Tierp Arena. Will racers prefer to race at the new facility and probably miss out the rounds at Santa Pod or will it actualy be a massive benefit to European Drag Racing ( bring more interest and see new drivers and sponsors get involved in the FIA series ? and bigger entries at Santa Pod ) .... What does everyone think ?

popinoz

163 posts

247 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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After going to the pod for years i went to brands hatch to see some awesome historic cars gt40,s mclarens,mk 1 tinas and such like on sunday.All i can say is clean toilets, hot running water in toilets,handryers immaculately clean circuit i rest my case.

Its not rocket science to provide a clean toilet and showers i reckon anyone would jump at any new strip and clean facilitys.Provisions for dissabled folk at the pod are horrendous too.

MotorPsycho

1,126 posts

232 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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"All i can say is clean toilets, hot running water in toilets, handryers, immaculately clean circuit"

I'm confused, does Brands not have these then?

Burndown

732 posts

187 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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MotorPsycho said:
"All i can say is clean toilets, hot running water in toilets, handryers, immaculately clean circuit"
If these factors were as important for everyone as they are for you then nobody would go. The likes of Glastonbury and Reading and Leeds festivals would be going out of business. I don't see that happening.


*KT

603 posts

232 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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popinoz said:
All i can say is clean toilets, hot running water in toilets,handryers immaculately clean circuit i rest my case.

Its not rocket science to provide a clean toilet and showers i reckon anyone would jump at any new strip and clean facilitys.Provisions for dissabled folk at the pod are horrendous too.
The Santa Pod ladies facilities over the weekend were first class given the weather conditions.

Just my 2p worth.

Kirst smile

Big go'75

58 posts

194 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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*KT said:
popinoz said:
All i can say is clean toilets, hot running water in toilets,handryers immaculately clean circuit i rest my case.

Its not rocket science to provide a clean toilet and showers i reckon anyone would jump at any new strip and clean facilitys.Provisions for dissabled folk at the pod are horrendous too.
The Santa Pod ladies facilities over the weekend were first class given the weather conditions.

Just my 2p worth.

Kirst smile
And the Gents were fine too! All the toilets are cleaned throughout the day and SPR has made big improvements sine the bad old good old days. There is even a new toilet block now with a tiled floor.

Anyway the OP asked about the effect of Tierp. Hopefully this will be positive, but judging by previous posts it is unlikely to replace SPR for UK racers. In Sweden it effectively replaces Mantorp as an FIA venue this year. If Sweden gets an extra FIA round at the expense of SPR in the future that might be not so good but hopefully won't be the case>

Flying Toilet

3,621 posts

232 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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I don't see Popinoz's point.

Everytime I went the toilet over the weekend there was an attendant in there cleaning or replacing toilet rolls etc. It was first class I thought considering the weather and the footfall involved.

I have been to Silverstone for the F1 (i know, i know...free ticket though) in similar conditions and they have been a state.

I think the Pod is on par with Silverstone and similar circuits just without the pretense involved.

clausy26

161 posts

208 months

Wednesday 1st June 2011
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Haaa yeaa ive been to a fair few music festivals and have had to squat at each one provide my own loo roll and never have any water to wash goin to santa pod was heaven toilets wer beautiful even the older blocks, showers wer hot wat more do you need.

WJM

333 posts

209 months

Wednesday 1st June 2011
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I actually don't think the toilets/catering etc is too bad at the Pod these days, it's no worse than at most circuits in the UK. Getting out if you stay to the end is a pain but that is also true at most circuits.Tierp may take over as Europe's premier track if it turns out to be faster than the Pod but lets not forget Hockenheim has been around for a while now and that has got big grandstands and F1 style pits. I am sure there will be pressure to run a 2nd Swedish FIA round but given we only have 5 rounds anyway I'd have thought that could happen without the Pod losing one of theirs.

When I take new people to the Pod they are always gobsmacked by the cars {especially TF} but hardly any have become regular fans and I think the main reason is not smelly toilets but the sort of jumbo downtimes that occur. The last 2 meetings I have been to are the Spring Holiday meetings in 2010 and again last week both times on the Sunday as I organise a classic car run on the Monday. On both meetings the Pro cycle of qualifying started more or less on time at around 11 and the weather was OK but it took more than 5 hours to complete. All the hanging around with nothing happening {especially as nobody seems to be willing to give an estimate of how long it will take} is very tiresome, I'm not sure if anything can be done about it but I'd say that it is the biggest reason these days that the events are not more popular with casual fans.


I noticed also that during the TF warm ups in the pits { a major highlight for me} that several of the teams have stopped doing throttle blips, I noticed this in Gainesville in 2009 and assume that they are not required any more technically but from a spectator point of view it's a real let down.

Bill

firewalker

366 posts

202 months

Wednesday 1st June 2011
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popinoz said:
After going to the pod for years i went to brands hatch to see some awesome historic cars gt40,s mclarens,mk 1 tinas and such like on sunday.All i can say is clean toilets, hot running water in toilets,handryers immaculately clean circuit i rest my case.

Its not rocket science to provide a clean toilet and showers i reckon anyone would jump at any new strip and clean facilitys.Provisions for dissabled folk at the pod are horrendous too.
The toilets all have attendants and regular cleaners, hot water and hand dryers.
The track is prepped long after the racing ends and long before it starts.
Every visit to the Pod I notice some welcome spectator area improvements (without mentioning the b**n wink )
Maybe you were last there in the 70s?

Bowler

912 posts

232 months

Wednesday 1st June 2011
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I was at the Pod over the weekend and when I went for a wazzer, I couldn't move in the gents due to the people eating their dinner off the floor......

HTH smile

spats

838 posts

176 months

Wednesday 1st June 2011
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I used to head over to the pod for a few events, but since the last PV show I've not bothered. they simply couldnt cope with the numbers nor had the factilities to deal with the campers.

It was muddy and half the show was under water. The next year was just as bad but without the rain.

I've not been there for 2 years but vowed not to go back until they spent money on the place. the toliets were rank, the ground old and runined. All well going for the strip, but the rest of the site was in serious need of cash being spent.

Anyone been in the last few months?

firewalker

366 posts

202 months

Wednesday 1st June 2011
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spats said:
I used to head over to the pod for a few events, but since the last PV show I've not bothered. they simply couldnt cope with the numbers nor had the factilities to deal with the campers.

It was muddy and half the show was under water. The next year was just as bad but without the rain.

I've not been there for 2 years but vowed not to go back until they spent money on the place. the toliets were rank, the ground old and runined. All well going for the strip, but the rest of the site was in serious need of cash being spent.

Anyone been in the last few months?
Yes! Camping is as well catered for as can be reasonably expected and is after all - free. Soil (of which mud is a by-product) is useful when putting tent pegs in the ground.

firewalker

366 posts

202 months

Wednesday 1st June 2011
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Bowler said:
I was at the Pod over the weekend and when I went for a wazzer, I couldn't move in the gents due to the people eating their dinner off the floor......

HTH smile
biggrin

firewalker

366 posts

202 months

Wednesday 1st June 2011
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Big go'75 said:
If Sweden gets an extra FIA round at the expense of SPR in the future that might be not so good but hopefully won't be the case>
Suppose it's all down to how good Swedish toilets are, how clean the mud is and wether it rains there.

Jon C

3,214 posts

268 months

Wednesday 1st June 2011
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spats said:
I've not been there for 2 years but vowed not to go back until they spent money on the place.
The irony is strong in this one...

wicked fish

526 posts

184 months

Wednesday 1st June 2011
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definatly two rounds wanted in tierp next year by the owners/promotors

Flying Toilet

3,621 posts

232 months

Wednesday 1st June 2011
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spats said:
Some generic bullshine slamming Santa Pod.
I think you need to take another visit and stop being so down on it all.

Santa Pod has improved massively over the last couple of years.

NIRO LEWY

239 posts

200 months

Wednesday 1st June 2011
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Nevermind 2 rounds at Tierp next year get Mantorp back on the calender!. I have to agree with many on here the Pod has come on leaps and bounds over the pass few years real improvements toilets, attractions etc. Think the FIA would be silly to get rid of 2 rounds over here, the attendances at the Pod now must be at a all time high especially the FIA events look at last weekend the weather wasnt too clever but there was still plenty of folk there, plenty of money gets made from the Pod for sure.

firewalker

366 posts

202 months

Wednesday 1st June 2011
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Extra rounds good, same number of rounds with changes of venue bad for some and good for others.

and then who is to say SPR would suffer a loss, could be Hockenheim or Alastaro?
I think Santa Pod is streets ahead in impressing and working with the FIA.

There's talk of FIA approved venues in Hungary and Italy too...my optimistic side says these will cater for more rounds and a rapidly growing European field. Bring it on.