Oldest Dragster in Europe ?
Oldest Dragster in Europe ?
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Benni

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3,684 posts

232 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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Hi DragHeads !

I am looking for the oldest dragster in Europe.
AFAIK the "Allard" is built in 1961,
what about the scandinavians, when did it start there ?
Oldest german-built dragsters date from ca.1969/70.
Have there been imports from the US that are from the "stone age" ?
Regards,
Benni

CRR

182 posts

232 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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The Swedish Hot Rod Associations first meeting was in the summer of 1968 at Anderstorp. Flying the flag for the UK were Dennis Priddle and Rex Sluggett in Tudor Rose and Clive Skilton in the Allard Skilton rail. The race report also mentions that "Swedens only rail, Volvo powered, failed to pass the scrutineer."

veryoldfart

1,739 posts

226 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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John Spuffards knocking on a bit....lol


(takes cover)

NitroWars

667 posts

232 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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veryoldfart said:
John Spuffards knocking on a bit....lol


(takes cover)
I think John's first race meeting as a competitor was in 1984.

Edited by NitroWars on Thursday 25th June 12:50

Jon C

3,214 posts

268 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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One of the original Allard Dragoon cars was in the WB a couple of years ago. As far as still competing, Dorset Horn must be close to the oldest in Europe.

NitroWars said:
veryoldfart said:
John Spuffards knocking on a bit....lol


(takes cover)
I think John's first race meeting as a competitor was 1986.
One for the trivia buffs: Has John Spuffard ever competed in anything that wasn't a fuel car? I think not...

Flying Toilet

3,621 posts

232 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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Jon C said:
One of the original Allard Dragoon cars was in the WB a couple of years ago. As far as still competing, Dorset Horn must be close to the oldest in Europe.

NitroWars said:
veryoldfart said:
John Spuffards knocking on a bit....lol


(takes cover)
I think John's first race meeting as a competitor was 1986.
One for the trivia buffs: Has John Spuffard ever competed in anything that wasn't a fuel car? I think not...
I thought he did a meeting or two in street Mustang I read somewhere?

NitroWars

667 posts

232 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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That is news to me Dan and I am not sure that it is correct...

John made his debut in late July 1984 (made an error earlier) and I was on the start line when he attempted his first pass. If my memory serves me correctly, he popped the blower and immediately side-lined the car. When he got out through the roof hatch I thanked him for his driving and he presented me with a sweaty firesuit cuff to pull so that he could get his torso out from inside it. I swear you could have rung the sweat out of it but this was not fear as John was as cool as ever, but it was an extremely warm day...

Flying Toilet

3,621 posts

232 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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NitroWars said:
That is news to me Dan and I am not sure that it is correct...

John made his debut in late July 1984 (made an error earlier) and I was on the start line when he attempted his first pass. If my memory serves me correctly, he popped the blower and immediately side-lined the car. When he got out through the roof hatch I thanked him for his driving and he presented me with a sweaty firesuit cuff to pull so that he could get his torso out from inside it. I swear you could have rung the sweat out of it but this was not fear as John was as cool as ever, but it was an extremely warm day...
I am sure i read it in an interview somewhere regarding someone else who lived near him...i am probably wrong.

Is this the incident then Jim:
http://www.theaccelerationarchive.co.uk/mark/gredz...

NitroWars

667 posts

232 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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That picture is from 1987 and it may well have been (and I got mixed up)... Age does nothing for memory! That is me with the shades on looking towards John, nice view of Brian Ledster's back...

Edited to add: Looks like Allan Bates walking in the right hand lane and as the three of us have jackets on it I would surmise that this is another blower being launched!

Edited by NitroWars on Thursday 25th June 15:13

Jon C

3,214 posts

268 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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Johns first funny was the ex Ollie Burn Vega, wasn't it?

snakehips

250 posts

214 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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John ran a Mustang Grande ( the ugly one) the car,not John

Jon C

3,214 posts

268 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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snakehips said:
John ran a Mustang Grande ( the ugly one) the car,not John
Thanks for that Brian.

Benni

Original Poster:

3,684 posts

232 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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Thank you, Clive !
Hmmmm....so maybe I am going to see something from the (US) 50s at the weekend.
If it happens, you will be informed.
Regards,
Benni

veryoldfart

1,739 posts

226 months

Friday 26th June 2009
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The Main Event this year may have had few older cars but of course one has been around a very long time....

I wonder who and where the little feller is having a peep in "the gasser"





veryoldfart

1,739 posts

226 months

Friday 26th June 2009
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Ok, who IS the oldest driver racing regularly?

Edited by veryoldfart on Friday 26th June 19:37

Jon C

3,214 posts

268 months

Friday 26th June 2009
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veryoldfart said:
Ok, who IS the oldest driver racing regularly?

Edited by veryoldfart on Friday 26th June 19:37
My guess would be Leif Heleander in Europe, with Chris Karamesines (80+ and still running fours) worldwide.

Benni

Original Poster:

3,684 posts

232 months

Sunday 28th June 2009
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Oldest driver in germany is Ronald Jütting,
although he races only Hockenheim annually.
Last year he had the fastest aircooled VW run ever in this country,
with an 7,8 in his turbo "new beetle roadster".
On the next run he split his trans case on the line
and had a spectacular low-speed fire.
I think he is 73 now.


btt :
The slingshot I saw at the weekend has no documented history,
but a Corvette C1 axle and "In & Out Box" (High Gear, clutch only)
could well indicate a 1959 year of origin.


Yes, they know the carb is not correct,
if someone has a Hilborn gasoline injection system collecting dust in the garage somewhere please let me know.
A magneto is on the shopping list as well,
once an engine with enough grunt for wheelspin is implanted.
Chassis also has a straight-tube front axle - like firefly (?),
not the "dropped" style seen commonly.

Regards,
Benni


Edited by Benni on Monday 29th June 00:07

central

16,745 posts

238 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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Allard pics (@ the Silverstone classic) -