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Wadeski

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8,798 posts

234 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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Right. embarassing drag racing question, sorry.

After i get my new turbo fitted, i want to head up to Santa Pod to have a crack at the 1320. However, to my shame....I've never done a burnout. I dont want to get to the water box and slide right into a marshal, either. I hear that is considered bad form.

I tend to avoid driving like a pillock on the road, and living in central london, its not like i can pop into a deserted carpark and have a crack.

Anyone got any ideas for how i can practice getting some heat into the tyres without breaking the law, or adding to my nerves on my first run?

anonymous-user

75 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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Is this with the MR2 on your profile mate? With a RWD manual car you're going to need a line lock to do anything like a reasonable burnout. It's a solenoid (or manually operated valve) that allows you to isolate the front brakes, so you press the pedal, activate the line lock, and then when you release the brake pedal again the pressure is still applied to the front brakes. Now as long as you have the valve closed or button pressed you can just dump the clutch and spin 'em up. Only other way really is if you're a bit handy with the ol' heel and toe; use you left foot on the clutch, apply slight brake pressure with the ball of your right foot (just enough to operate the fronts without applying too much pressure to the rears) and bring the revs up with your toes....not easy to get right.

Wadeski

Original Poster:

8,798 posts

234 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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yeah i was trying to work out how to keep it under control in my head and ended up on those lines. I'll look into a line lock...

Tet

1,196 posts

225 months

Monday 28th December 2009
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Rat_Fink_67 said:
Only other way really is if you're a bit handy with the ol' heel and toe; use you left foot on the clutch, apply slight brake pressure with the ball of your right foot (just enough to operate the fronts without applying too much pressure to the rears) and bring the revs up with your toes....not easy to get right.
True, but most of the time it's not necessary. If you position yourself with the driven wheels in the water box, you shouldn't need the brake anyway. Hold it there on the handbrake, and when you're ready, release the handbrake and give it some welly with your right foot. The wheels should start spinning just fine. I did it like that for pretty much all of 2008 before I started using the line lock. To be honest, with road tyres, you don't need much of a burnout anyway, just enough to clean the crap off them. The extra heat from a burnout doesn't make that much difference unless you're on slicks.

Wadeski

Original Poster:

8,798 posts

234 months

Monday 28th December 2009
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ah i forgot to mention i was looking at semi-slicks (mickey Ts).

JakesterUK

869 posts

220 months

Monday 28th December 2009
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Wadeski said:
ah i forgot to mention i was looking at semi-slicks (mickey Ts).
MT drag radials?

Bigmouse

197 posts

232 months

Monday 28th December 2009
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Wadeski said:
ah i forgot to mention i was looking at semi-slicks (mickey Ts).
I hope you've built some strength into your drivetrain - its gonna be a long walk home!

Slinky

15,704 posts

270 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Bigmouse said:
Wadeski said:
ah i forgot to mention i was looking at semi-slicks (mickey Ts).
I hope you've built some strength into your drivetrain - its gonna be a long walk home!
Uh huh..

Have a read of this thread : http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Wadeski

Original Poster:

8,798 posts

234 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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MR2 rear ends, gearboxes, clutche are all known for being pretty strong, but i will have a chat with the drag racing chaps on IMOC for some advice. cheers for the heads up smile

Bigmouse

197 posts

232 months

Tuesday 29th December 2009
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Slinky said:
Bigmouse said:
Wadeski said:
ah i forgot to mention i was looking at semi-slicks (mickey Ts).
I hope you've built some strength into your drivetrain - its gonna be a long walk home!
Uh huh..

Have a read of this thread : http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Couldn't have put it better myself Wil. If I had a pound for every time this question comes up - and the same advice gets posted - I'd have enough for turbos by now biggrin If I had another pound for everyone that ignored it and broke their car I could have twin turbos!!

Edited by Bigmouse on Tuesday 29th December 16:50

BigShow

85 posts

232 months

Thursday 31st December 2009
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When my other car was in the shop, I took the 745i to the Pod for a laugh and simply put my foot on the brake and mashed the accelerator to see how it would act doing a burnout, pointless on road tyres tbh, but it did burnout just fine, much to the amusement of the crowd, however it did step out quite a bit so you need to be careful to practice to get it right. Just don't worry about people watching you, practice makes perfect and you're there to get the perfect launch, not pu ton a show so just have fun with it.

For those with FWD and an uprated clutch/diff then position the the front wheels in the water box, apply hand brake, select 2nd gear, dial in decent revs and slip the clutch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62RuQTt2qxI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwbrJVhSl3E

If you haven't got an uprated clutch, or a diff to heat up both tyres, IMO, drive around the water box and launch like you would away from some traffic lights. You'll save your clutch and get to do more starts. The best launches come with practice and its difficult to do that when you've left your gearbox on the startline. I've seen so many people with big power and stock tranny who dial in max revs and slip the clutch only to go home on the back of a recovery truck.

Just remember, if your planing full bore launches to help bring down your ET with drag radials or slicks and there is a weak link in your car somewhere, the Pod will find it. The MINI's above did nearly 100 launches, the red one going 11.1@123mph and used up nothing but tyres and petrol.

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Edited by BigShow on Thursday 31st December 20:41

anonymous-user

75 months

Thursday 31st December 2009
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failing all that, just get yourself a big block and a Lenco ;-)



Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 31st December 22:53

SVTRick

3,633 posts

216 months

Sunday 3rd January 2010
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At Shakey I always drive around the water and just back the rears into it
Then light em up.
At the Pod I was stopped along with others as I was told it took too long.
Alright for the big boys to blast 200ft down the track though.

This worked for me and prevented getting water on my front tyres and thus
onto the track in front of me.
Maybe thats why I run my quickest times and launch harder at Shakey. coffee