Wise words from Urs Erbacher about track times
Discussion
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I attended a meeting in Australia that ran from 8am to 1 the next morning, a bit extreme granted but the crowds rolled in in their thousands later in the day. The top draw was 1/8th mile doorslammers.
More time for the further travelled to get to the tracks and set up camp in daylight too without missing too much doesn't seem like a lot to ask.
Maybe there is legislation that people aren't aware of, I really don't know. But Urs is a prolific figure whose comments are recognised as being very valid by this dragnut at least.
To avoid confusion/topic-disruption by the minority who can't tell the difference between constructive criticism and 'whining' :
No one is suggesting the track crews aren't the unsung heroes that they are or asking any more of them.
I haven't tried to organise a drag racing event but I have supported them for 35 years - and have every respect for the organisers and promoters.
Drag Strips want spectators, spectators want to get there and spectate. Most don't live with a couple of hours drive of the tracks and have their own commitments to plan around. A little flexibility would go a long way in the decision making.
Discuss freely please, but snidey comments aren't invited.
Here here.
I attended a meeting in Australia that ran from 8am to 1 the next morning, a bit extreme granted but the crowds rolled in in their thousands later in the day. The top draw was 1/8th mile doorslammers.
More time for the further travelled to get to the tracks and set up camp in daylight too without missing too much doesn't seem like a lot to ask.
Maybe there is legislation that people aren't aware of, I really don't know. But Urs is a prolific figure whose comments are recognised as being very valid by this dragnut at least.
To avoid confusion/topic-disruption by the minority who can't tell the difference between constructive criticism and 'whining' :
No one is suggesting the track crews aren't the unsung heroes that they are or asking any more of them.
I haven't tried to organise a drag racing event but I have supported them for 35 years - and have every respect for the organisers and promoters.
Drag Strips want spectators, spectators want to get there and spectate. Most don't live with a couple of hours drive of the tracks and have their own commitments to plan around. A little flexibility would go a long way in the decision making.
Discuss freely please, but snidey comments aren't invited.
In Europe I believe the best way is to have the track open for as long as reasonably possible on each day of the event. The weather is too much of a factor to restrict hours too much.
In the middle east they run at night because of the daytime temperature, they don't appear to suffer from rain like Europe does.
In the middle east they run at night because of the daytime temperature, they don't appear to suffer from rain like Europe does.
I agree with you that greater flexibility is required. It seems slightly odd to me that it is only Sportsman qualifying on the first day of a four day FIA/UEM event.
I think if the weather is good on the first day run one cycle of pro qualifying with the Sportsman classes. At some events the Sportsman racers have run up to seven qualifiers in one day and then sat in the pits for two days.
There will be an issue with more time off work for racers and crew but I think anything that improves the chances of getting better weather is a good thing.
I think if the weather is good on the first day run one cycle of pro qualifying with the Sportsman classes. At some events the Sportsman racers have run up to seven qualifiers in one day and then sat in the pits for two days.
There will be an issue with more time off work for racers and crew but I think anything that improves the chances of getting better weather is a good thing.
In my opinion, Urs should know better about european track and weather conditions.
There is a reason that the "Night Show" runs in Hockenheim are not counting for qualification or race,
as it is never really clear when and where the dew point will set in,
making it impossible to get 8.000 hp fast and safe down the track.
The night show crowd is easily pleased with flames and fumes up to 60/100/300ft,
with additional low 5s or high 4s as a bonus if possible.
The lighting and darkness issue would also have to be approached in a different way if night runs were mandatory.
There is a reason that the "Night Show" runs in Hockenheim are not counting for qualification or race,
as it is never really clear when and where the dew point will set in,
making it impossible to get 8.000 hp fast and safe down the track.
The night show crowd is easily pleased with flames and fumes up to 60/100/300ft,
with additional low 5s or high 4s as a bonus if possible.
The lighting and darkness issue would also have to be approached in a different way if night runs were mandatory.
Benni said:
In my opinion, Urs should know better about european track and weather conditions.
There is a reason that the "Night Show" runs in Hockenheim are not counting for qualification or race,
as it is never really clear when and where the dew point will set in,
making it impossible to get 8.000 hp fast and safe down the track.
The night show crowd is easily pleased with flames and fumes up to 60/100/300ft,
with additional low 5s or high 4s as a bonus if possible.
The lighting and darkness issue would also have to be approached in a different way if night runs were mandatory.
So I'm getting it that daytime track conditions are important to the quality of racing.There is a reason that the "Night Show" runs in Hockenheim are not counting for qualification or race,
as it is never really clear when and where the dew point will set in,
making it impossible to get 8.000 hp fast and safe down the track.
The night show crowd is easily pleased with flames and fumes up to 60/100/300ft,
with additional low 5s or high 4s as a bonus if possible.
The lighting and darkness issue would also have to be approached in a different way if night runs were mandatory.
Still see room for starting/running later before the sun goes down...
How many times does this topic have to be repeated until the thoughts sink in that night racing in Europe is always going to be a novelty. I think that's what Urs was suggesting, exhibition stuff, not championship events as it is extremely unlikely to even be meaningful given our climate.
I'm not repeating all the other arguments about why it can't take place late at night, you didn't listen last time !
I'm not repeating all the other arguments about why it can't take place late at night, you didn't listen last time !
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