GoPro take 2

[John145]

Went to the 'ring last weekend and did a bit of recording...

So this time I switched it to narrow view to get rid of all the interior it was showing, gives a better view of the road as well. Unfortunately I only managed 4 laps before we ran out of time and only trialled this one view.

Let me know what you think!

Narrow view ('Ring)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2bhsQTJF2M&fea...

Full view (Snet')
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqN3pztL7HQ&fea...

[GreigM]

much better perspective - but still a pity it couldn't be mounted further forward.....I hate seeing track day vids where you hardly see the track and all you see is the back of the seats/helmets...

[John145]

Might try removing the headlining and going from between the front seats, see how that turns out. Might get a bit too much rear view mirror but worth a bash!

Also could go on the windscreen, go for the gran turismo view!

[GreigM]

Its a difficult balance, I like to see what the steering wheel is doing, but not the rest of the driver. I've tried positioning my own a thousand different ways and have settled on this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgrQljupoxo

which is achieved by mounting the camera pretty much at eye level a few inches in front of the helmets, you can see it here:
http://gallery.mcarthur.org.uk/var/albums/cars/meg...

I'm still not happy with it, but can't see how to improve...its obviously easier to do with no roof and lots of scaffolding to mount the camera on, but I think if you could figure a way to align the camera just in front of the drivers head then it will make a big difference...

[mmm-five]

The other benefit of having it on the back screen is that the barrier marshals are less likely to see that you're using a camera.

[trackracer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=ULQGSsUrkENsw&am...

footage on board silver ep3 ctr

go pro with 1080 30 fps medium angle on roll cage ,if youve got a roll cage gives a good angle

[GreigM]

trackracer said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=ULQGSsUrkENsw&am...

footage on board silver ep3 ctr

go pro with 1080 30 fps medium angle on roll cage ,if youve got a roll cage gives a good angle

you're getting a huge amount of "rolling shutter" effect on that which is very distracting...I found that if you record in 720p60 it eliminates this with little perceptible change in quality

[src1971]

GreigM said:

Its a difficult balance, I like to see what the steering wheel is doing, but not the rest of the driver. I've tried positioning my own a thousand different ways and have settled on this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgrQljupoxo

I like that angle. Will try it myself next time out.

[wy906]

GreigM said:

trackracer said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=ULQGSsUrkENsw&am...

footage on board silver ep3 ctr

go pro with 1080 30 fps medium angle on roll cage ,if youve got a roll cage gives a good angle

you're getting a huge amount of "rolling shutter" effect on that which is very distracting...I found that if you record in 720p60 it eliminates this with little perceptible change in quality

I too prefer higher frame rate, but for GoPro2 '720p60' only allows '170° FOV' which is too wide for my car.

This was filmed at 1080p, 127° FOV with cheap external mic located at the engine bay. Probably the best setting for my car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ee_U3pRfhY

Shot at Donington, summer evening at around 6.30pm.

[LostCroc]

Another option for FOV if rolling shutter is causing problems is to compromise on 960 48fps. The only downside with this is the 'postbox' effect created by narrowing the video image.

An illustration of the different resolutions/frames per second is in this video:
1) 1080 30fps - opening sequence to 2.03 with the silver car. Bad rolling shutter although I tried to stabilise it in in post production.
2) 960 48fps - 2.05 with the red car
3) 720 60fps - 3.25 with the yellow car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detail...

[996TT_STEVO]

GreigM said:

Its a difficult balance, I like to see what the steering wheel is doing, but not the rest of the driver. I've tried positioning my own a thousand different ways and have settled on this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgrQljupoxo

which is achieved by mounting the camera pretty much at eye level a few inches in front of the helmets, you can see it here:
http://gallery.mcarthur.org.uk/var/albums/cars/meg...

I'm still not happy with it, but can't see how to improve...its obviously easier to do with no roof and lots of scaffolding to mount the camera on, but I think if you could figure a way to align the camera just in front of the drivers head then it will make a big difference...

That's not too bad, might want to try the Richmonds Mount, it's a chunky/meaty mount and easy to adjust with your fingers.

[LostCroc]

996TT_STEVO said:

That's not too bad, might want to try the Richmonds Mount, it's a chunky/meaty mount and easy to adjust with your fingers.

Do you have a link to the Richmonds mount? Its not coming up from a variety of googles. Thanks

[996TT_STEVO]

LostCroc said:

996TT_STEVO said:

That's not too bad, might want to try the Richmonds Mount, it's a chunky/meaty mount and easy to adjust with your fingers.

Do you have a link to the Richmonds mount? Its not coming up from a variety of googles. Thanks

I think it was a company called "GRILLED"... let me check, I just remember it was a weird name!!!

[Quietlybonkers]

How about a helmet mount? See this link - video by my passenger, but he was intending to be the driver of his own car, hence the mount on the left of his helmet, so the mount would be in the middle of the car if he was the driver.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKLIaSmvQxE&fea...

[996TT_STEVO]

Quietlybonkers said:

How about a helmet mount? See this link - video by my passenger, but he was intending to be the driver of his own car, hence the mount on the left of his helmet, so the mount would be in the middle of the car if he was the driver.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKLIaSmvQxE&fea...

That is seriously giving me motion sickness watching that, lol

[John145]

I really wanted to try the helmet cam but didn't get around to it! Will try at Cadwell middle of October.

[Quietlybonkers]

Hold your head still!!