Track Tution
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Ej74

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1,048 posts

208 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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With my first trackday in the Lotus 2-11 now complete

Looking for some tution to help me fully exploit the potential of the car

The following have been recommended :

www.olliehancock.com
CAT
Car Limits

Any more recommendations

andyiley

12,216 posts

175 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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What track day did you go to, as most have instructors there on the day & for £20 you get 20 minutes of top class advice.

It is the best performance upgrade you will get.

Ej74

Original Poster:

1,048 posts

208 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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I've done the 20 min sessions at many tracks - great as a tester session to learn tracks

What i am looking for is to extract the full potential gains from the car before wasting money on performance mod's

gruffalo

8,090 posts

249 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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I can not recommend this chap strongley enough.

http://www.drivertuition.com/mike_cooper.htm

Mrs Muttleysnoop

1,417 posts

207 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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CAT Driver Training are very good.

e36er

293 posts

204 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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andyiley said:
What track day did you go to, as most have instructors there on the day & for £20 you get 20 minutes of top class advice.

It is the best performance upgrade you will get.
I recently had instruction at Bedford, he said he couldn't teach me anything and that I should go racing. I'm certainly not suggesting that time with an instructor is a waste, but it might be for some. For the sake of £20 or £30 you may as well go for it though.

g40steve

1,182 posts

185 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Good shout for Mike top bloke, still gives me tips even now.

jelley

24 posts

155 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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I had a day with Jamie Stanley, google him, excellent days tuition, I learnt a lot
and gave me much more confidence in the car.

Sid123

270 posts

200 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Try Ben Clucas. Phenomenol driver and instructor.

drakart

1,749 posts

233 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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e36er said:
I recently had instruction at Bedford, he said he couldn't teach me anything and that I should go racing. I'm certainly not suggesting that time with an instructor is a waste, but it might be for some. For the sake of £20 or £30 you may as well go for it though.
I would be very interested to know who told you that!

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

283 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Mrs Muttleysnoop said:
CAT Driver Training are very good.
Couldn't agree more.

And the 20 minute sessions at track days are too short, at least for me.

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

283 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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e36er said:
I recently had instruction at Bedford, he said he couldn't teach me anything and that I should go racing.
One of you is fibbing.

Madgit

109 posts

176 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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There's a big difference between a trackday and a racing instructor. A TD's one is there to give you some guidance on lines and mechanical sympathy etc. their brief is to make sure you know the basics and hopefully make it to the end of the day in one piece. If I ever had an instructor tell me I couldn't learn anything, I'd be questioning their ability. I had aTD instructor sit there very quietly, last time I had one as he said I was driving well but I would expect a race instructor to be picking holes in nearly everything.

e36er

293 posts

204 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Drakart said:
I would be very interested to know who told you that!
Sorry, can't remember his name. Possibly something like Flewis Hambilton...

Zumbruk said:
One of you is fibbing.
Haha! He did actually say that I drifted too much, even if I did hold it well. In my defence, my rear tyres were absolutely shot. I definitely tend to drive the car on the front end too much though.

I feel like a bit of an arse making my initial comment now, I really don't claim to be a driving god!

e36er

293 posts

204 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Madgit said:
There's a big difference between a trackday and a racing instructor. A TD's one is there to give you some guidance on lines and mechanical sympathy etc. their brief is to make sure you know the basics and hopefully make it to the end of the day in one piece. If I ever had an instructor tell me I couldn't learn anything, I'd be questioning their ability. I had aTD instructor sit there very quietly, last time I had one as he said I was driving well but I would expect a race instructor to be picking holes in nearly everything.
I agree entirely - if they're that good, why are they there in the first place? Having said that, I've been taken round Brands by a current WTC driver and really didn't think he was that good at all. His parents do have an awful lot of money though...

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

283 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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e36er said:
I've been taken round Brands by a current WTC driver and really didn't think he was that good at all.
Racing drivers generally make very poor instructors - the ego and aggression that makes you a good racer makes you a rubbish teacher.


rex

2,067 posts

289 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Another shout for Mike Cooper. Had 2 full days of 1 to 1 tuition a few years back and recently a 20 min session of coaching just the other week. He seems to get across his instructions in a clear and concise way no matter what your level of driving. The cheapest upgrade on your car you can make.

GC8

19,910 posts

213 months

Saturday 3rd August 2013
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Zumbruk said:
Racing drivers generally make very poor instructors - the ego and aggression that makes you a good racer makes you a rubbish teacher.
Remember too that there are several different grades and it isnt beyond the realms of possibility that the Grade C instructor (National licence with 10 sigs at two venues only) couldnt teach him a great deal.

A family member is a top grade ARDS instructor and can teach me all day long, whereas an ARDS C instructor might struggle to.

pw32

1,032 posts

221 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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Ben Clucas or Simon Mason; you won't go far wrong.

northerner

115 posts

233 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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Adam Foster is worth a shout - http://www.adam-foster.co.uk/tuition/