What do you want to see in a circuit video?
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I have decided to put some effort into the footage I take on various track days and I am trying out some ideas. The current idea I was after some feedback for is I am building Adobe Illustrator versions of corners for tracks. These will be much more accurate than standard circuit guides as they are drawn from the satellite images. For now I am overlaying them onto the video when at the relevant corner. Take a look at the example at Oulton park below.
http://youtu.be/BJ2cS0j-fwM
Let me know what you think or if there is any other information you would like to see and I will have a bash at making it.
http://youtu.be/BJ2cS0j-fwM
Let me know what you think or if there is any other information you would like to see and I will have a bash at making it.
yeah nice idea - although id only show the variation of the track that you're actually driving, got a little confusing when the image of the corner showed a few different track layouts. Also, the video in the top right corner didnt really add anything, maybe a view of the pedalbox or steering wheel movement.
also i've seen videos (or forza 4) that show the amount of throttle and brake being applied, but probably quite hard to get the feeds for this!
also i've seen videos (or forza 4) that show the amount of throttle and brake being applied, but probably quite hard to get the feeds for this!
Yes I like it too.
I agree with brillomaster re the other variations of track - or you could try leaving them on but maybe use light grey or fade out?)
Also agree on small video options - or try Rear facing view.
As a matter of interest, roughly how long would it take to do a whole track like Oulton?
I agree with brillomaster re the other variations of track - or you could try leaving them on but maybe use light grey or fade out?)
Also agree on small video options - or try Rear facing view.
As a matter of interest, roughly how long would it take to do a whole track like Oulton?
Here is version 2: http://youtu.be/dBJudzYMgrw
I didn't have any rear facing cameras from that day. I ha done on the splitter, one in cabin and one on the roof all facing forward.
I have added direction arrows and no entry symbols to make the direction clearer.
I have now created all corner layouts for Oulton.
I didn't have any rear facing cameras from that day. I ha done on the splitter, one in cabin and one on the roof all facing forward.
I have added direction arrows and no entry symbols to make the direction clearer.
I have now created all corner layouts for Oulton.
TBH I'm not so fussed about the graphics, but would rather have the camera mounted further back in the cabin so we can see what the driver is doing. In my MR2 I mounted a GoPro to the rear bulkhead between the seats and it gave what I thought was an ideal perspective. In my E36 there's obviously no bulkhead there, so I've tried a few alternatives, and attaching it to my helmet has had the best results so far. For examples, browse my Youtube channel: www.youtube.com/jlewisbarned
Synchromesh said:
TBH I'm not so fussed about the graphics, but would rather have the camera mounted further back in the cabin so we can see what the driver is doing.
More like this? 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHFqVC3oDoA
One other thing to be careful of OP is that if you're drawing the corners from satellite imagery the images can be taken from an angle by the satellite not directory top-down, meaning the image and corner you see is not entirely accurate.
Sonic said:
Synchromesh said:
TBH I'm not so fussed about the graphics, but would rather have the camera mounted further back in the cabin so we can see what the driver is doing.
More like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHFqVC3oDoA
Sonic said:
More like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHFqVC3oDoA
One other thing to be careful of OP is that if you're drawing the corners from satellite imagery the images can be taken from an angle by the satellite not directory top-down, meaning the image and corner you see is not entirely accurate.
Good point. Also the elevation changes of the track is hard to take into account in a flat drawing. Although they may not be 100% accurate they do convey much more of the corner than the sketches from my Circuit Guide book which seems to adjust the scaling to make the image fit on one page.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHFqVC3oDoA
One other thing to be careful of OP is that if you're drawing the corners from satellite imagery the images can be taken from an angle by the satellite not directory top-down, meaning the image and corner you see is not entirely accurate.
Synchromesh said:
TBH I'm not so fussed about the graphics, but would rather have the camera mounted further back in the cabin so we can see what the driver is doing. In my MR2 I mounted a GoPro to the rear bulkhead between the seats and it gave what I thought was an ideal perspective. In my E36 there's obviously no bulkhead there, so I've tried a few alternatives, and attaching it to my helmet has had the best results so far. For examples, browse my Youtube channel: www.youtube.com/jlewisbarned
Although interesting it is harder to see the track with the camera inside the car. My aim with the video was to create something educational I can watch on my tablet when I commute to help improve my lines and technique. For example being able to pause during the corners to work out markers and other points of interest to get my line right.
My opinion is that these videos don't really teach you anything. Best thing to do is turn up and take the tuition offered early on in the day you will learn 1000 times as much.
What I want to see in track videos is people driving fast, 95% of videos out there are people milling around at 6/10ths and this is boring.
What I want to see in track videos is people driving fast, 95% of videos out there are people milling around at 6/10ths and this is boring.
Clark3y said:
My opinion is that these videos don't really teach you anything. Best thing to do is turn up and take the tuition offered early on in the day you will learn 1000 times as much.
What I want to see in track videos is people driving fast, 95% of videos out there are people milling around at 6/10ths and this is boring.
IronFire's vids would be great for learning a track before you go there.What I want to see in track videos is people driving fast, 95% of videos out there are people milling around at 6/10ths and this is boring.
I agree that the main thing I like to see in track videos is people driving the car at its limit.
Clark3y said:
What I want to see in track videos is people driving fast, 95% of videos out there are people milling around at 6/10ths and this is boring.
My bog standard E36 saloon on 165k ,soggy suspension and 205/60/15 Accelera tyres will never be called "fast", even if driven at 11/10th! I do, however, try to upload laps that have a few "moments" involved.Question: do people like to watch full sessions (10+ mins), a couple of interesting/occasionally sideways laps (~3 mins), a couple of clean/tidy/smooth laps (~3 mins) or just the highlights (overtakes, drifts, etc) mashed together?
This is my favourite track video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU7GDxbNjDM
Created by PH member (John Felstead) and released on DVD and was extremely helpful before my first visit to the ring many years ago.
I like it because it has simple commentary, ideal for a first timer, links the car track position with the graphics and also has a full lap overview.
He is also driving quickly, so gives an idea of what a fast lap would be like.
I like the OP's graphics, but showing them as a static image is not very instructional.
Hope this helps.
Created by PH member (John Felstead) and released on DVD and was extremely helpful before my first visit to the ring many years ago.
I like it because it has simple commentary, ideal for a first timer, links the car track position with the graphics and also has a full lap overview.
He is also driving quickly, so gives an idea of what a fast lap would be like.
I like the OP's graphics, but showing them as a static image is not very instructional.
Hope this helps.
Synchromesh said:
My bog standard E36 saloon on 165k ,soggy suspension and 205/60/15 Accelera tyres will never be called "fast", even if driven at 11/10th! I do, however, try to upload laps that have a few "moments" involved.
Question: do people like to watch full sessions (10+ mins), a couple of interesting/occasionally sideways laps (~3 mins), a couple of clean/tidy/smooth laps (~3 mins) or just the highlights (overtakes, drifts, etc) mashed together?
Personally, I like to watch fast full laps of the circuits I am visiting as I am keen to learn what lines were used to achieve that. Question: do people like to watch full sessions (10+ mins), a couple of interesting/occasionally sideways laps (~3 mins), a couple of clean/tidy/smooth laps (~3 mins) or just the highlights (overtakes, drifts, etc) mashed together?
However, I think most people just want to see you crash, just look at how many hits the crash videos get compared to the other lapping videos.
supertouring said:
This is my favourite track video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU7GDxbNjDM
Created by PH member (John Felstead) and released on DVD and was extremely helpful before my first visit to the ring many years ago.
I like it because it has simple commentary, ideal for a first timer, links the car track position with the graphics and also has a full lap overview.
He is also driving quickly, so gives an idea of what a fast lap would be like.
I like the OP's graphics, but showing them as a static image is not very instructional.
Hope this helps.
Good vid.Created by PH member (John Felstead) and released on DVD and was extremely helpful before my first visit to the ring many years ago.
I like it because it has simple commentary, ideal for a first timer, links the car track position with the graphics and also has a full lap overview.
He is also driving quickly, so gives an idea of what a fast lap would be like.
I like the OP's graphics, but showing them as a static image is not very instructional.
Hope this helps.
Can't believe someone is in an old nissan micra at 1:36.
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