Tweaked 993 C2 or 997 GT3 for day of tuition at Bedford?
Tweaked 993 C2 or 997 GT3 for day of tuition at Bedford?
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Mario149

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7,786 posts

200 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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I posted this in the Porsche forum the other day, but it probably should have been put here in hindsight. Any instructors or similar about here who can advise?

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

GT4EDS

541 posts

220 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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GT3 smile Lucky you smile

Eduardo.

Porkie

2,378 posts

263 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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Take both. I always take more than one car on a trackday. Sometimes 4 or 5!

Stops day getting repetative and its easier on the cars.

You will struggle on noise for both I think.

Mario149

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7,786 posts

200 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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Porkie said:
Take both
Yup, have roped in a mate to drive the 993 up for me, so both it is smile

McSam

6,753 posts

197 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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Porkie said:
Take both. I always take more than one car on a trackday. Sometimes 4 or 5!
A little off-topic but I've often wondered how this works re. dealing with the organisers.

Whenever booking it seems the price is per car & driver, with additional drivers attracting a small surcharge. Can you simply negotiate the other way round, have one driver only with a similar small surcharge for additional cars that only you drive?

Mario149

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Thursday 9th October 2014
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McSam said:
Porkie said:
Take both. I always take more than one car on a trackday. Sometimes 4 or 5!
A little off-topic but I've often wondered how this works re. dealing with the organisers.

Whenever booking it seems the price is per car & driver, with additional drivers attracting a small surcharge. Can you simply negotiate the other way round, have one driver only with a similar small surcharge for additional cars that only you drive?
From memory with MSV, it's something like £30/extra car with same driver

Porkie

2,378 posts

263 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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No surcharge in all the years I have been doing it

You pay for the driver space, not the car. I just keep the numbers or sticker in the car rather than putting them on... I show them out to guy at end of pit lane as I pull out in whatever I am driving.

McSam

6,753 posts

197 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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That's pretty awesome, thanks for the info. I wonder if similar would work if you have two drivers, so long as only one car is out at a time?

Don't plan on taking the piss to get more value out of my entry, but having my still-capable-enough road car as a backup would be good.

Porkie

2,378 posts

263 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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McSam said:
That's pretty awesome, thanks for the info. I wonder if similar would work if you have two drivers, so long as only one car is out at a time?

Don't plan on taking the piss to get more value out of my entry, but having my still-capable-enough road car as a backup would be good.
yep, I do that as well. As long as only one car out at one time. Not a problem. (as long as you pay for extra driver if required by the TDO)

McSam

6,753 posts

197 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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Good stuff, I might just make use of that! Thanks for the info smile

QBee

22,063 posts

166 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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Re the noise issue at Bedford. The limit is usually 101 dB (A).

My TVR was 102dB with no extra silencing last time out at Cadwell Park. It was 99 dB the previous time at the same track with extra silencing.
Cadwell is another MSV circuit and uses the same make and type of noise meters, but has a 105dB(A) noise limit.

Last time at Bedford I was measured at 106 dB(A), so I duly went and added the extra silencer cans......and was still 103 db(A).
They were just about to tell me to go home when PetrolTed (Founder of PH and all-round good guy) rocked up in his GT3 RS(?), of about 2003 vintage.......and failed the noise test, recording 103 dB(A) also. They tried everything, right up to testing it beside the driver's door, to no avail.

So we were allowed on, as they doubted their own equipment and the dull damp atmospherics that March morning, and several other cars that came out at 103-104 dB(A) were also allowed on.

None of us failed the drive-by test all day. So be aware that you might have a problem, and be persistent. Insist that you were 98 dB last time. Try asking to go on track anyway, and go home if you fail the drive by. Then make sure you don't pass those pesky meters alongside three other cars, or at full chat in any gear. They are easy to spot.

BTW, I had a ride in PT's GT3 - awesome, considering it sounded like the power unit in the back had been designed by James Dyson. 150 mph into the chicane on the long straight had me braking in the passenger seat well before Ted did. hehe True brown trouser moment that i won't forget quickly. bow