Why do you have a TD car?
Discussion
I'm in two minds atm. I have Megane RS250 which is obviously pretty nice but am thinking of something (MG ZS 180) to use on track only but just don't know if its me wanting another toy or if its a good idea. Pros are, with the MG, its fast enough, cheap and cheap to do stuff to, can drive it like I stole it and not have to worry about damage (not that this is likely!). Megane isn't bad but its a big old lump, tyres cost £150 each and also my DD.
Why did you get one and what is your other car?
Why did you get one and what is your other car?
Had my e36 M3 for about 8 years. Bought it for the track but could also use it as a road car. Was a bit limited as a road car as had 6 point harness which is a pain on the road. As I developed it to be more track orientated I realised that a road car is compromised on the track and a track car is compromised for the road.
Decision was made to use it as dedicated track car and tow to the circuit. After a long day on the track the drive home was always a pain. Much nicer now and can modify car to hearts and budget content
Decision was made to use it as dedicated track car and tow to the circuit. After a long day on the track the drive home was always a pain. Much nicer now and can modify car to hearts and budget content
Same as Zoobeef, VX for the track (and odd weekend jaunt) and my Seat family wagon for the day to day stuff.
I have a TD car because I have a family and have to have a practical car. I tried doing it with 1 car but there was too much compromise one way of the other... plus, it's f
king awesome to have a TD car!!
I have a TD car because I have a family and have to have a practical car. I tried doing it with 1 car but there was too much compromise one way of the other... plus, it's f
king awesome to have a TD car!!My previous car was a Megane RS250 which as you know is a cracking car.
I sold it for a family friendly car and I also thought it was too expensive to take out regularly on track. I then bought a Clio 182 as a daily drive which is most of the car the Megane was for a fraction of the price. I upgraded brakes, tyres and suspension and it keeps up with much faster cars, personally the Clio would be a better choice than the MG.
I sold it for a family friendly car and I also thought it was too expensive to take out regularly on track. I then bought a Clio 182 as a daily drive which is most of the car the Megane was for a fraction of the price. I upgraded brakes, tyres and suspension and it keeps up with much faster cars, personally the Clio would be a better choice than the MG.
rex said:
Had my e36 M3 for about 8 years. Bought it for the track but could also use it as a road car. Was a bit limited as a road car as had 6 point harness which is a pain on the road. As I developed it to be more track orientated I realised that a road car is compromised on the track and a track car is compromised for the road.
Decision was made to use it as dedicated track car and tow to the circuit. After a long day on the track the drive home was always a pain. Much nicer now and can modify car to hearts and budget content
What Rex is trying to say is that hard suspension hurt his piles and he is a big girl;-)Decision was made to use it as dedicated track car and tow to the circuit. After a long day on the track the drive home was always a pain. Much nicer now and can modify car to hearts and budget content
I have had My Cerbera as a toy for about 7 years, done some mod's to transmission, engine and suspension which make it quicker both on road and track. To the the drive home is so much fun passing trailered cars on the road that I passed on the track as well.
Daily is a Merc E320cdi estate, a great but unengaging car, Cerbera gives my fun on track and road where I struggle to keep within the 10k miles I am allowed on the insurance.
I guess I am saying modding a car to a full blown race spec so you can't use it on the road is to me kind of against the track day ethos, go racing if you want but to track days are for fun in a run what you brung.
Similar logic to yourself: Started off with a 3.0 Z4, My DD at the time couldn't face damaging it. so swapped it for a toy (E36 328) and a daily (520d estate). Went to insure the toy as a second car limited milage etc and was £750 - £1000 or so and you can buy a trailer for that money, the daily had a toe bar. so no brainer, plus as I didn't have to tax mot etc the 328.
I was using my R35 GTR on track but as I was using it on the road at the same time I wasn't driving it anywhere near its potential. Partly for sympathy and partly because I didn't fancy binning it and not having a daily!
Bought an E46 M3 in October to use driving to/from track days so it's got a bit of comfort (partially stripped, 1 bucket seat) but not much! Will be turning it in to a dedicated track car when the weather picks up and I'm able to work on it a bit more. Will hopefully be a dedicated track car that I can tow to/from track. Feels great compared to the GTR, much less refinement and feels a lot more solid which is exactly what I wanted. Still not as cheap as I had hoped for though, spent as much on the car since buying it as the car cost in the first place!
Bought an E46 M3 in October to use driving to/from track days so it's got a bit of comfort (partially stripped, 1 bucket seat) but not much! Will be turning it in to a dedicated track car when the weather picks up and I'm able to work on it a bit more. Will hopefully be a dedicated track car that I can tow to/from track. Feels great compared to the GTR, much less refinement and feels a lot more solid which is exactly what I wanted. Still not as cheap as I had hoped for though, spent as much on the car since buying it as the car cost in the first place!
I got a track car so I can push a bit harder. I have a family and a job that requires commuting. A track car is not an option, my wife also needs a car and values comfort over speed.
Once I got a job where I could take the cash instead of a car I realized I could run two second hand cars for much less than just the finance cost of a new one so
1) 2003 E39 530d touring - commute/daily/family car - as I am not paying finance it is cheap as
2) mx5 - fun car - I do autosolos, sprints, track days and a bit of drifiting in it and use it on Fridays as my commute is a handful of miles on back roads
Doing this also means I can work on the mx5 myself as I don't need it on a Monday as I have the daily so when I mess up it isn't a problem.
Mrs Binner has a focus mk1 which I used to autosolo in as well until I blew up the engine by not checking the oil properly. The mx5 cost less to buy (£850) than replacing the engine (£900) in the focus.
Once I got a job where I could take the cash instead of a car I realized I could run two second hand cars for much less than just the finance cost of a new one so
1) 2003 E39 530d touring - commute/daily/family car - as I am not paying finance it is cheap as
2) mx5 - fun car - I do autosolos, sprints, track days and a bit of drifiting in it and use it on Fridays as my commute is a handful of miles on back roads
Doing this also means I can work on the mx5 myself as I don't need it on a Monday as I have the daily so when I mess up it isn't a problem.
Mrs Binner has a focus mk1 which I used to autosolo in as well until I blew up the engine by not checking the oil properly. The mx5 cost less to buy (£850) than replacing the engine (£900) in the focus.
Edited by binnerboy on Friday 4th March 14:54
Westfield 1992 se for trackdays well learning how to do trackdays anyway, great fun! Td5 disco to tow it there and back + put all associated stuff in!
Astra gtc 2.0 cdti for daily drive! Would love to try it on track one day but worried it might struggle a bit. Has anaybody tracked a gtc on PH?
Ag
Astra gtc 2.0 cdti for daily drive! Would love to try it on track one day but worried it might struggle a bit. Has anaybody tracked a gtc on PH?
Ag
Track day wannabe here, so interested in this thread. Currently leasing a Golf R which I'd love to track but terrified I might break it. I've also realised a performance car on the road is a waste of time unless you are prepared to risk your neck and licence, shared a TD car with a mate last year but it got very little use as we were both busy at different times. It failed the MOT and then when we tried to fix it the floor literally fell out of it and it went to a drifter...
This year is about fixing up a new house, but I'm hoping to get back on it next year.
Next car will be a tin top, I fancy an older 3 series 6 cylinder but I've also been looking at COPART for CAT C/D cars to turn into TD toys but will need to drop lucky for that to work out. I'd like a trailer so I don't have to worry about MOT, but storage could prove to be an issue.
You definitely have more fun on track in any car than you could have legally on the road in a porsche in my opinion. Always open to a bit of TD advice...it's all about bang for buck,
This year is about fixing up a new house, but I'm hoping to get back on it next year.
Next car will be a tin top, I fancy an older 3 series 6 cylinder but I've also been looking at COPART for CAT C/D cars to turn into TD toys but will need to drop lucky for that to work out. I'd like a trailer so I don't have to worry about MOT, but storage could prove to be an issue.
You definitely have more fun on track in any car than you could have legally on the road in a porsche in my opinion. Always open to a bit of TD advice...it's all about bang for buck,
I bought my car after a friend died too young (26) and at the funeral decided you have to do what you want to do as you never know how long you have so on the way home I bought my e30 325i saving it from a scrap yard for £100
i then spent £2000 using eBay to prepare it with cage, seats belts, fire extinguishers.. Etc. I do 1-2 days a year and keep in our barn. When things wear out racing parts are added.
It's now some what of a weapon but we have now spent another 4-5k on it including rebuilt engine, all bushes replaced with black bushes, decent suspension and brakes etc.
Last trackday it had its first accident, a minor spin on wet cold Tarmac which resulted in the car impacting an Armco barrier slowly. It now needs body work repairs so next project will be bonnet, boot, roof, bumpers replaced with carbon/ fibreglass items and a full repspray and lastly all glass replaced with Perspex. This should remove 150kg's from the car. It's only ever trailered and can embarrass M3's and Porsche.
My daily is a 5.7vxr monaro and classic is a 635csi neither of which is particular suited to the track.
i then spent £2000 using eBay to prepare it with cage, seats belts, fire extinguishers.. Etc. I do 1-2 days a year and keep in our barn. When things wear out racing parts are added.
It's now some what of a weapon but we have now spent another 4-5k on it including rebuilt engine, all bushes replaced with black bushes, decent suspension and brakes etc.
Last trackday it had its first accident, a minor spin on wet cold Tarmac which resulted in the car impacting an Armco barrier slowly. It now needs body work repairs so next project will be bonnet, boot, roof, bumpers replaced with carbon/ fibreglass items and a full repspray and lastly all glass replaced with Perspex. This should remove 150kg's from the car. It's only ever trailered and can embarrass M3's and Porsche.
My daily is a 5.7vxr monaro and classic is a 635csi neither of which is particular suited to the track.
I have a track day car for two reasons;
I love Motorsport and doing trackdays although not the same gives you a bit of a feeling of being involved. Even when you're not driving it's great wandering around the paddock and looking at what is usually a really diverse mix of cars. I also feel that using a modern performance car on today's roads is a frustrating experience, speed cameras, the fact that they are so capable that you can be going very fast with little sensation of speed.
Second reason is that I really enjoy tinkering with cars and I couldn't do that with my daily driver for obvious reasons, I spend way too much time messing with my TD car (MR2 Roadster) and probably find it as satisfying as actually driving it (sorry..)
Daily driver is an A45 AMG, and coincidentally my last car was also an RS250 which I still have a massive soft spot for, the steering was sublime!
I love Motorsport and doing trackdays although not the same gives you a bit of a feeling of being involved. Even when you're not driving it's great wandering around the paddock and looking at what is usually a really diverse mix of cars. I also feel that using a modern performance car on today's roads is a frustrating experience, speed cameras, the fact that they are so capable that you can be going very fast with little sensation of speed.
Second reason is that I really enjoy tinkering with cars and I couldn't do that with my daily driver for obvious reasons, I spend way too much time messing with my TD car (MR2 Roadster) and probably find it as satisfying as actually driving it (sorry..)
Daily driver is an A45 AMG, and coincidentally my last car was also an RS250 which I still have a massive soft spot for, the steering was sublime!
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