Pi Hole Experts.....
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paulrockliffe

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16,472 posts

253 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Can I use PiHole to stop my Google Home Hub from accessing Youtube?

It's really handy to have in the kitchen for controlling what's playing over my house speakers or the heating etc, but the kids just put Ben and Holly on and it's a pain in the arse.

So I'd like to block Youtube on just the one IP address. Any clues?

BigTZ4M

236 posts

197 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Sure. Just add YouTube.com to your block list on the PiHole. It will block everyone, not just your kids.

I think you’d need to block a few more domains as well. A quick search suggests you’d need to add these to a block list:

googlevideo.com
ytimg.com
youtube.com
youtube-ui.l.google.com
ytimg.l.google.com
ytstatic.l.google.com
youtubei.googleapis.com

Edit: sorry didn’t realise the home hub uses hard coded DNS. Better advice below.

Edited by BigTZ4M on Monday 16th December 20:30

RoadRailer

599 posts

254 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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PiHole doesn’t see the DNS from the HomeHub - I use a redirect on my firewall to stop any hard coded DNS devices calling home on port 53 UDP.

Can you VLAN the google / home kit and block YouTube through the firewall?

Edited to add DNS redirect link



Edited by RoadRailer on Monday 16th December 20:22

paulrockliffe

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16,472 posts

253 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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Thanks, I had no idea devices could hard-code their DNS address either, so that's more complicated than I have time for right now. Will have to just go back to shouting at the kids and unplugging it for now as I'm not risking killing the network right before Christmas!

It's irrelevant until I sort the above, but I don't want to just block Youtube on PiHole, I want to restrict the block it to a single device/IP Address. I want to keep YouTube on everything else but kill the video capability on the Home Hub while keeping everything else working.

There maybe an easier way of doing it, just thought Pi Hole would be the simplest approach.

strippier

91 posts

123 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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I have a network router Nighthawk (from CPC was about £150 a year ago) which allows you to restrict all or certain webs addresses per device. Sure lots of modern routers have this functionality. It works through an app called 'Circle' (which is a Disney app) which links to the netgear router and monitors/restricts access.

We use it so that the kids devices have a restricted profile (kids, teens etc).

Works well.


RoadRailer

599 posts

254 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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I keep getting ads for YouTube Kids since posting in this thread (in-line YouTube video ads where PiHole struggles as they are served from within the stream)

Resistance is futile... hehe

Baldchap

9,592 posts

118 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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If it's to stop kids watching too much video, I recommend a Circle With Disney device (£40ish). It basically allows time/content restrictions with minimal effort.

I would however hard wire it directly to your router or it'll impact internet speeds.

paulrockliffe

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16,472 posts

253 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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Baldchap said:
If it's to stop kids watching too much video, I recommend a Circle With Disney device (£40ish). It basically allows time/content restrictions with minimal effort.

I would however hard wire it directly to your router or it'll impact internet speeds.
This won't work unfortunately. We're on top of the kids watching stuff generally, but I can't stop them going to Youtube on the Home Hub if it's sat in the kitchen where I want it. They are fine now I've got it on my desk, but I want it back in the kitchen as I bought it so we could control the heating and media from the kitchen!

It's cute when the 2 year old says "okgoogleplaypeppapig" but getting them out of the house without arguments gets boring quickly!

Baldchap

9,592 posts

118 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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paulrockliffe said:
Baldchap said:
If it's to stop kids watching too much video, I recommend a Circle With Disney device (£40ish). It basically allows time/content restrictions with minimal effort.

I would however hard wire it directly to your router or it'll impact internet speeds.
This won't work unfortunately. We're on top of the kids watching stuff generally, but I can't stop them going to Youtube on the Home Hub if it's sat in the kitchen where I want it. They are fine now I've got it on my desk, but I want it back in the kitchen as I bought it so we could control the heating and media from the kitchen!

It's cute when the 2 year old says "okgoogleplaypeppapig" but getting them out of the house without arguments gets boring quickly!
It would work. You put the Google device in its own group and block YouTube on it.

paulrockliffe

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16,472 posts

253 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Baldchap said:
paulrockliffe said:
Baldchap said:
If it's to stop kids watching too much video, I recommend a Circle With Disney device (£40ish). It basically allows time/content restrictions with minimal effort.

I would however hard wire it directly to your router or it'll impact internet speeds.
This won't work unfortunately. We're on top of the kids watching stuff generally, but I can't stop them going to Youtube on the Home Hub if it's sat in the kitchen where I want it. They are fine now I've got it on my desk, but I want it back in the kitchen as I bought it so we could control the heating and media from the kitchen!

It's cute when the 2 year old says "okgoogleplaypeppapig" but getting them out of the house without arguments gets boring quickly!
It would work. You put the Google device in its own group and block YouTube on it.
Oh OK, that sounds feasible, I'll bear it in mind, thanks.