How do I limit noise for a static test ?
How do I limit noise for a static test ?
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mogv8

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836 posts

251 months

Thursday 6th December 2007
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I have done the search, as I am sure this must have been asked before for other cars, but I still can't find anything....

My Monaro reads 108db on a standard static test (tested twice to be sure)which excludes it from most UK track days. I can change the boxes, to bring it into the high 90's db but this costs and is awkward to reverse.

Is there any quick fix, bolt on or similar to limit noise temporarily for a track day. (Target would be Bedfords 101db static 87db drive by). I may only use this car on track the once to see how it behaves, so I don't want to spend much.

Ideally a generic bolt on solution would good, but if its model specific its a 6.0litre VXR Monaro with a twin pipe Wortec exhaust, although the headers have also been changed which adds to volume !!

Any thoughts appreciated.

Elderly

3,659 posts

261 months

Thursday 6th December 2007
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What's the limit on a 'noisy day' at Silverstone; you MAY be OK there?

GreenV8S

30,999 posts

307 months

Thursday 6th December 2007
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Depending on the tail pipe design this may not be feasible for you, but I have tailpipe inserts and external cans available for my V8S in case I run into noise limit problems at a track.

mogv8

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836 posts

251 months

Friday 7th December 2007
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Elderly said:
What's the limit on a 'noisy day' at Silverstone; you MAY be OK there?
I thought it was 105db but open to correction.

mgv8dave

826 posts

236 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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when the chap asks you " what will it rev too"
tell him about 1500 Rpm less than it can and that you are running in a new engine.

That way you wont have go go to your max

sfaulds

653 posts

301 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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Genius - I'll bet they've never heard that one before!

rolleyes

jleroux

1,511 posts

283 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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mgv8dave said:
That way you wont have go go to your max
No Dave, that way when the locals hear a noise that they *think* is 105dB (when it's actually 108dB or whatever) - they complain that it's too loud and get the limit reduced to 98dB instead. If people stopped taking the f**king p*ss in the first place and got their cars quiet enough then half the noise problems would stop straight away.

There is *no* reason why *any* car should need to be more than 98dB static or drive by. That includes radicals, ferraris, jap barges etc etc. I wish people would accept that noise is an issue and sort it out rather than moaning or trying to cheat the system and causing more problems in the process.

/rant over!

Jonny
BaT

mgv8dave

826 posts

236 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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He asked a question i gave a answer biggrin
it is some advice that was given to me once thats all
both my cars have Never Tripped a sound meter and that not bad going with a 3.9 Mg
and a Subaru and ive also had another Impreza and i made sure that was also with in all limits.
I also do Bike track days with a 1999 Ducati 996Bp fitted with termignoni Pipes oh and too is
fine on the sound checks as well.lick

Quite a simple way round it at is to follow the example of Bedford
The other week everyone was tested for Noise on the way in to the facility
even before getting to the track.
If you failed you had to make arrangements to repair it before you went on track, if you tripped the meter on track
you were off ... thats it no second chance this way it helped people understand that you don't have to be loud
to gain performance.
Also soon and you may laugh at me but it will happen that tyre noise will be a factor in limits at tracks
if anyone thinks i am mad have a look at the link

http://www.tyres-online.co.uk/technology/design.as...

Regards as ever Dave not taking life to seriously but having fun driving

mogv8

Original Poster:

836 posts

251 months

Sunday 9th December 2007
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jleroux said:
If people stopped taking the f**king p*ss in the first place and got their cars quiet enough then half the noise problems would stop straight away.

There is *no* reason why *any* car should need to be more than 98dB static or drive by. That includes radicals, ferraris, jap barges etc etc. I wish people would accept that noise is an issue and sort it out rather than moaning or trying to cheat the system and causing more problems in the process.

/rant over!

Jonny
BaT
Not quite sure I get the point as a) I know there is a noise problem, b) I am looking to quieten the car c) I am looking to comply with the noise regs not cheat them.

Don't quite get which bit you object to ?

jleroux

1,511 posts

283 months

Sunday 9th December 2007
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my reply wasn't aimed at you mog - it was in response to the suggestion that you can just cheat your way through the noise tests.

deviant

4,316 posts

233 months

Sunday 9th December 2007
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I believe you can buy aftermarket valves that go in your tailpipe to keep things quite.

It basically looks like a throttle butterfly and you just stick your head under the car for 30seconds to turn a screw that moves the butterfly. Some kits are a bit more trick than that and have a motor on them and a controller you mount inside the car. You will need to drill holes in your exhaust to set it up though.

I think the likes od Demon Tweaks can sell various bits and pieces that you just stick in the end of your exhaust.

The other option is to take one of your silencers out and pack it out with silencer wadding (I think most motorsport or kit car suppliers have it)...only thing about this though is that most of it will dissapear out of your tailpipe or burn away pretty quickly so by the middle of the day you might find yourself to noisy again!

mogv8

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836 posts

251 months

Monday 10th December 2007
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deviant said:
I believe you can buy aftermarket valves that go in your tailpipe to keep things quite.

It basically looks like a throttle butterfly and you just stick your head under the car for 30seconds to turn a screw that moves the butterfly. Some kits are a bit more trick than that and have a motor on them and a controller you mount inside the car. You will need to drill holes in your exhaust to set it up though.

I think the likes od Demon Tweaks can sell various bits and pieces that you just stick in the end of your exhaust.

The other option is to take one of your silencers out and pack it out with silencer wadding (I think most motorsport or kit car suppliers have it)...only thing about this though is that most of it will dissapear out of your tailpipe or burn away pretty quickly so by the middle of the day you might find yourself to noisy again!
Good thoughts, both sound like they could be options. I will get in touch with Demon Tweaks to see whats involved.


RMac

347 posts

244 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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mg dave - as far as I was aware, tyre noise has been an issue for some time at tracks.

gtikurt

141 posts

220 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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At 4.5krpm my car was 106db...and Oulton restrict to 105db..although a tiny amount over...I didnt wan't to risk not being aloud on track.

So I got some bolt in tip..that brought it to 94db....and just simply un-bolt it when you wanna go home.

bigbadbikercats

650 posts

231 months

Friday 14th December 2007
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RMac said:
mg dave - as far as I was aware, tyre noise has been an issue for some time at tracks.
I had a warning for it at Brands last year... frown

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JG

Vixpy1

42,697 posts

287 months

Friday 14th December 2007
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You can get valves for the LS7 vettes, so i see no reason why you could not get one for the Monaro

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

221 months

Friday 14th December 2007
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gtikurt said:
At 4.5krpm my car was 106db...and Oulton restrict to 105db..although a tiny amount over...I didnt wan't to risk not being aloud on track.

So I got some bolt in tip..that brought it to 94db....and just simply un-bolt it when you wanna go home.
What, where from, and how much??