Track Day Special

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bennno

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11,894 posts

271 months

Thursday 24th January 2002
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i am having a 205 GTI built in to a track day special with proper track suspension, roll cage, bucket seats, slicks, close ratio gears etc.

big question is whether to go for a 240bhp 16V engine or stick with a modified version of the standard 8V unit which will put out 185bhp? Car only weighs a bit more than an Elise so it should be pretty rapid either way!

Any pug owners or seasoned track dayers out there with a view? The 8V car is going to cost circa £5K, the 16V option is circa £1500 for the extra 55bhp.

Bennno

M-Five

11,298 posts

286 months

Thursday 24th January 2002
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At what revs are these figures getting produced and also what are the corresponding torque figures as the torque will help the acceleration more than the top-end power!

bennno

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11,894 posts

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Thursday 24th January 2002
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both are using rally cams, the 8V would be putting out 185 at circa 7,500RPM the 16V putting out 240 at 8,500rpm!

With the c/ratio box and the proposed lowered final drive both should be good round a track but i think the 8V is going to have more torque.

This is going to be for 90% track use only BTW.

Bennno

RobM

392 posts

286 months

Thursday 24th January 2002
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can you put 240bhp through the front wheels & still go in a straight line?

bennno

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11,894 posts

271 months

Thursday 24th January 2002
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for sure, just see the astra touring cars or the 306 production saloons, they are both doing way more!

might be a bit too much fun on the bends though.

Ben

M-Five

11,298 posts

286 months

Friday 25th January 2002
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I'd probably go for the 8v then as I prefer torque as lb/ft is for the road, bhp is for the pub.

Are you getting an ATB LSD fitted as that will help loads for cornering and keeping the power down. A Quaife LSD should cost no more than £500 and the fitting should be no problem as the gearbox is already out.

Gives you a grand to play with for tyres & repairs!

CarZee

13,382 posts

269 months

Monday 28th January 2002
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can you put 240bhp through the front wheels & still go in a straight line?
Yeah - with that sort of welly to the front wheels, straight lines will definitely be achieved thru corners

bennno

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11,894 posts

271 months

Tuesday 29th January 2002
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can you put 240bhp through the front wheels & still go in a straight line?
Yeah - with that sort of welly to the front wheels, straight lines will definitely be achieved thru corners



I am not sure, dont forget it will be on grippy slicks with modified suspension geometries to suit.

I know its not going to be as advanced but production touring ar is pushing out 230 - 300hp through the front wheels no probs.

You are just worried about being whupped on a track day by an old shed of a pug!

Bennno

apguy

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286 months

Tuesday 29th January 2002
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1500 GBP for the 16v option?

I have a complete and running 405 Mi16 in the garage which you can have for a fraction of that. LAD motorsport sell the 205->Mi16 engine mounts and a modified manifold to suit. 185bhp as standard.

Contact me at tintinracing@hotmail.com if you're interested - car is located in Ipswich.