10K for a track day car
10K for a track day car
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madmatt1985

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1,116 posts

231 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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i currenlty have a 2 1/2 year old focus st. but im im getting more and more tempted to do track days but i dont feel that the ST is really the car for the job. even thought it is a great car and fast on the track

if i was to sell the ST and set my self a 10k bugget what do you all think i could get. i must stress that i dont intend to do any more that gut the car and out a cage in it maybe lower it, but i will be depending on a 1 year warrenty from a dealer icase i kill the engine (on the public road)

my idear were....

clio 182
03ish plate STI scooby
or a kit car e.g. indy megabussa


matt

iguana

7,307 posts

284 months

Thursday 25th September 2008
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mattdove_uk

3 posts

211 months

Friday 26th September 2008
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DC2 Integra, good standard for 5K plus 5K mods will put it about 5sec 0-60 and nothing on this earth will go through a corner quicker!! The sound will bring a smile to your face every time and you will want for nothing more!!

madmatt1985

Original Poster:

1,116 posts

231 months

Friday 26th September 2008
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iguana said:
nice little car, yours by any chances. if i get a 7 type car id like a aroerace or a bike engine one. iv had a skin fall of ford and vauxhall. i still like my ST but i cant stand giving ford another penny so i wouldnt was a 7 type with a vauxhall engine and ford running gear even thought it does look very nice

madmatt1985

Original Poster:

1,116 posts

231 months

Friday 26th September 2008
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mattdove_uk said:
DC2 Integra, good standard for 5K plus 5K mods will put it about 5sec 0-60 and nothing on this earth will go through a corner quicker!! The sound will bring a smile to your face every time and you will want for nothing more!!
was thinking something a little smaller

sorry to be picky. i have a garage but it only just big enough to get the ST is so i want a smaller car to make life easier and if it small car then i still have room in the back for other toys e.g. my rotax max go kart wink

Shaun_E

748 posts

284 months

Friday 26th September 2008
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Something like this:
http://www.graduates.org.uk/forsale/default.asp?it...
Unless you really really want a car with a roof, a Caterham will be one of the best trackday cars in that kind of price range.
You can have lots of fun in other cars no doubt, but a Caterham will (in the right hands) lap quicker than most cars and still be great fun to drive. Running costs are very low as well - a 500kg car puts far less stress on suspension, tyres, brakes and engine than a 1000kg+ car does. Insurance is cheap on a specialist policy (for me £300 a year for a 226bhp car!). You'll also get 30mpg+ on the road from the one above!
OK I am biased but I went through all this 6 years ago, decided only a Caterham would do and have loved every minute. I now do sprints and hillclimbs which I still drive to.

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

283 months

Friday 26th September 2008
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mattdove_uk said:
DC2 Integra, good standard for 5K plus 5K mods will put it about 5sec 0-60 and nothing on this earth will go through a corner quicker!! The sound will bring a smile to your face every time and you will want for nothing more!!
LOL, nothing on earth? Fanboy alert!

PS. was going to suggest a caged e36 M3 but the size thing puts the dampers on that.

Edited by m12_nathan on Friday 26th September 10:33

Wayney

626 posts

230 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

222 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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MX5 / Eunos Turbo / Supercharger
MR2 mk2 n/a or turbo or V6 conversion
MR-S n/a or turbo conversion
BMW E36 M3
Porsche 968
Porsche 944 turbo
AE86 Corolla
VX220
Elise
S2000

4x4 choice Classic scooby or Early EVO


or the only worthy FWD's

Integra or Civic Type R

I assume you don't have to spend £10K as spending less can get you really good stuff.




davedlr

29 posts

246 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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I've just been through this, and a mate and I have bought Iguana's 7 from up the thread ^^^^^.

As mentioned above, running costs for trackdays can be ££££ for heavy cars - I used to track an Impreza STi but the tyre/brake bills were beyond a joke. Personally I think 7s are the way to go, but you could get a nicely sorted Elise for 10k, or something like this for less.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/730414.htm

madmatt1985

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1,116 posts

231 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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Wayney said:
I would take £10k for this.

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/715301.htm
nice evo. so its a factory FQ320?? or is it 320 with mods. TBH id only buy a evo with a years warrenty. as we all know something is bound to brake.


  • HKS dump valve. <<< id take the off the add ....
sorry to nit pic.

still got the ST. booked a track day for the 19th of november smile so im going to start really trying in january. i did see a add for a MK INDY with a S2000 engine. i think that would fit me well as it would be low maintenaces next to a pinto engine of a erly zetec


Wayney

626 posts

230 months

Thursday 16th October 2008
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madmatt1985 said:
Wayney said:
I would take £10k for this.

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/715301.htm
nice evo. so its a factory FQ320?? or is it 320 with mods. TBH id only buy a evo with a years warrenty. as we all know something is bound to brake.


  • HKS dump valve. <<< id take the off the add ....
sorry to nit pic.

still got the ST. booked a track day for the 19th of november smile so im going to start really trying in january. i did see a add for a MK INDY with a S2000 engine. i think that would fit me well as it would be low maintenaces next to a pinto engine of a erly zetec
Mines an MR (Jap Spec) not FQ (UK Spec). Its pushing 320 BHP at 1.0 Bar. The boost can be sensibly turned u to 1.2 bar on the current ECU mapping. On the side of caution, if u wanted the boost cranked up to has high at 1.7 bar, which the stock turbos can handle. It'll been to ECU will need to be remapped. Power out put 360-400 bhp mark.

Re Reliability, every one know Jap cars are the strongest about, just look through the threads in the Jap Section on Pistonheads. Regarding some thing breaking, every part on a car has a breaking point, it all depends on how sensible you are, and how well its maintained. Off the top of my head I dont know a single Evo or Subaru owner who has a bad thing to say about their car. Very well built!! If in doubt, and you still want warranty you can take out extended warranty with 3rd party companies such as Warranty Direct from as little at £99-£500. Best of luck with your search...

Wayney

626 posts

230 months

Thursday 16th October 2008
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Wayney said:
madmatt1985 said:
Wayney said:
I would take £10k for this.

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/715301.htm
nice evo. so its a factory FQ320?? or is it 320 with mods. TBH id only buy a evo with a years warrenty. as we all know something is bound to brake.


  • HKS dump valve. <<< id take the off the add ....
sorry to nit pic.

still got the ST. booked a track day for the 19th of november smile so im going to start really trying in january. i did see a add for a MK INDY with a S2000 engine. i think that would fit me well as it would be low maintenaces next to a pinto engine of a erly zetec
Mines an MR (Jap Spec) not FQ (UK Spec). Its pushing 320 BHP at 1.0 Bar. The boost can be sensibly turned u to 1.2 bar on the current ECU mapping. On the side of caution, if u wanted the boost cranked up to has high at 1.7 bar, which the stock turbos can handle, the ECU will need to be remapped. Power out put 360-400 bhp mark.

Re Reliability, every one know Jap cars are the strongest about, just look through the threads in the Jap Section on Pistonheads. Regarding some thing breaking, every part on a car has a breaking point, it all depends on how sensible you are, and how well its maintained. Off the top of my head I dont know a single Evo or Subaru owner who has a bad thing to say about their car. Very well built!! If in doubt, and you still want warranty you can take out extended warranty with 3rd party companies such as Warranty Direct from as little at £99-£500. Best of luck with your search...

Big 968 Dave

278 posts

265 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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What about a E46 BMW M3. There getting cheap now... £10K....

Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

222 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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Thing with spending £10K on a track car you know it'll do the job better if you strip it clean put buckets and harnesses in it etc, can be a bit difficult when you get home with someones old mint £10K M3 or whatever and you rip it to pieces. Think its better getting a dedicated cheaper track car,... unless you've plenty of money and don't think about things like that.

pw75

1,032 posts

222 months

Saturday 18th October 2008
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If this is a second hand car couldn't recommend a caterham (or similiar) enough. I sold my 997 911 having tracked it once. Caterham is more fun, soooo cheap and even with 120bhp in rover k series form is as quick (if not quicker)round a track as anything else like your subaru's etc. Once you've tasted lightweight sports cars you'll wonder why you considered anything else.

Lots of Roadsport A race cars will be available as from TODAY as its the last day of the season at the ford festival. Your looking at £10-£11k for a car ready to race/track. Don't be put off by buying an ex race car.... chances are its engine will of been better looked after than others.

PS: We are running around brands indy in 54 seconds

Have a look at some of the cars we overtake at brands.
http://uk.youtube.com/user/plwls

dax turbo

8 posts

232 months

Tuesday 21st October 2008
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Have to agree with all comments to date on benefits of going seven as long as its a 2nd car. Its all about the weight. I've got a dax rush with a cosworth turbo which weighs more than most westies / caterhams at 650 -700kgs. Low weight means tyres don't get the same level of abuse. My mates 911 turbo's rear tyres are too hot to touch after 20 mins, but even with toyo 888s i can stay out longer and go faster. Tyres, brakes (ie everything that gets eaten on track) far cheaper than anything else out there due to humble origins and lack of abuse due to weight. For example I upgraded to alloy 4 pots up front last year (not essential) at £300 ish with discs and pads and my pads are £20 a go. Toyo 888s 225/50s £80 a corner. Insurance is dirt cheap too...i pay £280 a year fully comp which includes all trackdays.

As far as performance is concerned nothing should overtake a sorted seven on a uk track unless its got wings! check out utube clips (unedited) further back in forum section for evidence.

In summary a seven type will cost u less to run, your sessions out on track will be longer and u should be quick!

If buying again I'd get something thats been track prep'd as it saves alot of skinned knuckes!

Good luck!

chris7676

2,685 posts

244 months

Tuesday 21st October 2008
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Overtaking or being overtaken is more down to the driver.
Otherwise, valid points, epsecially regaarding the weight.

rallycross

13,694 posts

261 months

Tuesday 21st October 2008
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this would make a great track car for £10k

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/723559.htm

just needs a roll cage and an mot and off you go!

VX220 Fully Converted Track Day Car / Racing Car
00X 25,000 Miles

This car was converted from a road car to compete in vauxhall's own VX220 race series that actually never happened! Car got full conversion inlcuding: ABS switch on/off Ignition switch on/off Fire extingusiher Outside switches Upgrade brakes Brake balance controller 3 way adjustable damper conversion Modified cylinder head Camshaft upgrades ECU re-map New exhaust system Light-weight Wheels Nitron suspension Racing seat(Carbon fibre) Harness seatbelts Weight reduction Interior stripped Racing steering wheel Quick release Racing Gear lever Engine upgrades etc. etc. Make an ideal track day car complete with slicks & wets (both with lightweight wheels).car is not road legal but could be on back of MOT as lights & indicators all work fine. Performance is amazing, handling, braking - seriously quick car. Was proffessionally converted(No DIY work) costing over £15000. I have invoices for all of the work here. Work carried out in Sept 20006. Pictures avaliable


Edited by rallycross on Tuesday 21st October 17:19

madmatt1985

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1,116 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st October 2008
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that for the hits. 7 type cars is something iv always fancied. beed doing alot of digging on them since i desided it was time for a change in cars. i really fancie a mnr with a R1 engine. there area few iv spoted about that do take my fancie. just got to get though xmas and then ill be cooking wink