First Track Day, where to go and how to prep?
First Track Day, where to go and how to prep?
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Scho

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2,479 posts

227 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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Hi all,

Firstly: Can someone suggest a good track for me and the misses to chuck our 1600 mx5 round? (trackday noobs)

Ideally would be as cheap as poss and within an hour or two from manchester. I though oulton park would might be a bit too open for the MX, also seems expensive?

A couple of mates had a great time at cadwell and also anglesey, which are both tightish in my understanding. any other to consider? Would be in september.

Secondly. My to do list:

-fitting a roll bar (propper one).

-coilovers £500 budget- recommendations?

-dot 5.1

-proper pads

-braided hoses

Anything to add/not bother with?

I've got really crap budget tyres on at the moment, i was thinking of replacing the fronts and leaving the rears. don't like the idea of too much traction out back-hard enough to oversteer as it is!. rubbish idea?

Sorry about the barrage of questions!

Rick.




PetrolTed

34,465 posts

327 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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Do you want to drive fast on a track or go drifting? If it's the former then sort all the tyres.

Porkie

2,378 posts

265 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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First day is easy. BEDFORD Autodrome. perfect for beginners.

before spending any money on the car... why not see if you actually enjoy the day first.

buy a set of Toyo R888 tyres and sort your brakes before you do any other mods.

fergus

6,430 posts

299 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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Porkie said:
BEDFORD Autodrome. perfect for beginners.
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Porkie said:
sort your brakes before you do any other mods.
Making sure you can stop well is more important than being the fastest person into the tyre wall. If you fit a roll bar (or cage), make sure you use harnesses and that they're correctly fitted.

Driven well, you'll be surprised what std road tyres can acomplish.

Make sure you don't go with too stiff a spring rate when you change your suspension, as you'll ruin any on-road compliance and also possibly upset the balance of the car. Remember that this may also alter your suspension geometry to make the car handle very differently!

cwin

961 posts

243 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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Hi
Try looking at this for a deal it's perfect for a first time track day,i have tested here and would recomend it as an introduction into trackdaying.

It would be suited for the mx5.

www.thetrackdayclub.co.uk


Regards

Craig

ginettajoe

2,106 posts

242 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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Scho said:
Hi all,

Firstly: Can someone suggest a good track for me and the misses to chuck our 1600 mx5 round? (trackday noobs)

Ideally would be as cheap as poss and within an hour or two from manchester. I though oulton park would might be a bit too open for the MX, also seems expensive?

A couple of mates had a great time at cadwell and also anglesey, which are both tightish in my understanding. any other to consider? Would be in september.

Secondly. My to do list:

-fitting a roll bar (propper one).

-coilovers £500 budget- recommendations?

-dot 5.1

-proper pads

-braided hoses

Anything to add/not bother with?

I've got really crap budget tyres on at the moment, i was thinking of replacing the fronts and leaving the rears. don't like the idea of too much traction out back-hard enough to oversteer as it is!. rubbish idea?

Sorry about the barrage of questions!

Rick.



An MX5 is an excellent trackday car in standard form, even down to brakes. My advice would be to change tyres to something like Yokohama A539's, Toyo Proxy TR1 or if you want loads of grip, Toyo 888's. Do not under any circumstances run budget tyres on the rear, with grippy tyres on the front,..... the car will be virtually undriveable, unless that is, you want to learn the art of "drifting" and I wouldn't advise that on your novice trackday!!!

splitpin

2,740 posts

222 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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ginettajoe said:
Scho said:
Hi all,

Firstly: Can someone suggest a good track for me and the misses to chuck our 1600 mx5 round? (trackday noobs)

Ideally would be as cheap as poss and within an hour or two from manchester. I though oulton park would might be a bit too open for the MX, also seems expensive?

A couple of mates had a great time at cadwell and also anglesey, which are both tightish in my understanding. any other to consider? Would be in september.

Secondly. My to do list:

-fitting a roll bar (propper one).

-coilovers £500 budget- recommendations?

-dot 5.1

-proper pads

-braided hoses

Anything to add/not bother with?

I've got really crap budget tyres on at the moment, i was thinking of replacing the fronts and leaving the rears. don't like the idea of too much traction out back-hard enough to oversteer as it is!. rubbish idea?

Sorry about the barrage of questions!

Rick.



An MX5 is an excellent trackday car in standard form, even down to brakes. My advice would be to change tyres to something like Yokohama A539's, Toyo Proxy TR1 or if you want loads of grip, Toyo 888's. Do not under any circumstances run budget tyres on the rear, with grippy tyres on the front,..... the car will be virtually undriveable, unless that is, you want to learn the art of "drifting" and I wouldn't advise that on your novice trackday!!!
+1 > Get the tyres, suspension, barkes and all fluids up to top notch standard spec, then learn to walk before you try to run; ideally get a bit of proper tuition to help you abandon the folly of chucking it around a track. Go in with the thought that you know nothing and have everything to learn as far as getting a car round a track quickly is concerned; that's most likely to be the case. Take your time; when you are as quick and capable as a fine little car like an MX5, that'll be the time to start thinking about spending hard earned money on improvements.

A.Wang

541 posts

221 months

Thursday 16th July 2009
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Give Tasha @ Motorsport Events a call - they run a series of airfield days...great for your first time, nothing to hit and loads of run-off if you get it wrong!

http://www.motorsport-events.com/

Jamz

408 posts

217 months

Friday 17th July 2009
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Dont think there is any need for 5.1 brake fluid... you can get good dot4 for track

IIRC 5.1 has a lesser (poor english I know) boiling temp then dot4

Mark (UB)

2,312 posts

203 months

Saturday 18th July 2009
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Scho said:
Hi all,

Firstly: Can someone suggest a good track for me and the misses to chuck our 1600 mx5 round? (trackday noobs)

Ideally would be as cheap as poss and within an hour or two from manchester. I though oulton park would might be a bit too open for the MX, also seems expensive?

A couple of mates had a great time at cadwell and also anglesey, which are both tightish in my understanding. any other to consider? Would be in september.

Secondly. My to do list:

-fitting a roll bar (propper one).

-coilovers £500 budget- recommendations?

-dot 5.1

-proper pads

-braided hoses

Anything to add/not bother with?

I've got really crap budget tyres on at the moment, i was thinking of replacing the fronts and leaving the rears. don't like the idea of too much traction out back-hard enough to oversteer as it is!. rubbish idea?

Sorry about the barrage of questions!

Rick.
As all the advice above but also book yourself on a novice trackday and get instruction, do a few novice days before you do a non novice day. It's better for you and for the experienced guys.

Oulton is a great track.thumbup

DavidCane

853 posts

265 months

Saturday 18th July 2009
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A.Wang said:
Give Tasha @ Motorsport Events a call - they run a series of airfield days...great for your first time, nothing to hit and loads of run-off if you get it wrong!

http://www.motorsport-events.com/
My first track day was with these guys at Abingdon last year. I can't recommend them highly enough. The day was great fun, tuition was excellent and the standard of driving from all drivers was good.

Do an airfield where you have nothing (apart from other cars) to crash into and book some tuition. I've done 3 track days so far and have only had tuition at 2. Funnily enough, I only enjoyed the two when I had tuition...go figure...

DC

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

233 months

Saturday 18th July 2009
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Novice trackday at Oulton.

I did my first last month in my standard 1.8 MX5 at one of the novice days at Brands. You turn up, they give you the safety briefing and show you the way around the track, then let you go out for three sessions of 20 mins each. Trust me, that's easily enough for the first time, and Oulton would be even more fun than Brands I think.

If you're on budget tyres, make sure they're even all round, but they'll be fine. I had crappy tyres on mine and managed to blister them due to some hamfisted driving (session 2) and then some power oversteer (session 3).

Brakes - if you've been driving enthusiastically on the road you'll know what it feels like when the brakes overheat. If this happens on the track - come into the pits: you're not forced to stay out all session.

As for the lack of rollbar - don't crash. Being conscious of the possibility of your face rubbing along the road should mean you don't do anything stupid enough to need the rollbar. biggrin.

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

238 months

Sunday 19th July 2009
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My 2 cents would be do the brake fluid and pads, buy some new reasonably decent performance road tyres (I would avoid track day tyres for your early days - if it rains you might just regret it and it is doubtful that you will really have the initial pace to need them).

Book a novice day pretty much anywhere and feel free to chew through as much as you like of the remainder of your budget on tuition. Seriously - it is a better investment early on than anything that you can do to the car. On a novice day it is easy (and often quite amusing) to spot the lines of the people who don't think that they need it wink