Track day clothing...
Track day clothing...
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nick_j007

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1,600 posts

226 months

Sunday 19th July 2009
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Hi.

First track day lined up with Car Limits mid August in my S2 Elise (woo-hoo!)

Do I need any specialised clothing?

Should I get a fire extinguisher?

I'm not wishing for any drama, but wondered what your thoughts were.

Thank you.

Nick

mattdaniels

7,362 posts

306 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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Check the specific regs with the TDO you are going with but as a general rule all you need is a helmet to the appropriate standard, and clothing that covers arms and legs.

T89 Callan

8,422 posts

217 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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The 'arms' issue is the PITA, try and get a thin jumper or long sleever T-Shirt otherwise you will end up roasting in the car in summer (you usually don't have aircon on track).

Otherwise just make sure you check the specific rules for the track day.

A.Wang

541 posts

221 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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It's dependent on TDOs - for example, Motorsport Events ask you to wear long-sleeved tops and full-length trousers if you're heading on track, while MSV only insists on long-sleeved tops in open cars.

Helmets - most TDOs don't have specific minimum standard requirements, and those that do (e.g. MSV) don't check for the Snell/BS label. Spend as much as you can afford, according to what you think your head is worth! wink

Unless you are actually a racing driver, don't bother with fireproofs - you'd look a bit silly!

nick_j007

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1,600 posts

226 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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Unless you are actually a racing driver, don't bother with fireproofs - you'd look a bit silly!

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That answers that thank you.

PetrolTed

34,465 posts

327 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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I was on a track day last week and a car caught fire...

nick_j007

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1,600 posts

226 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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PetrolTed said:
I was on a track day last week and a car caught fire...
I guess you'd have to be trapped in it to really need fireproofs? Presumably upside down or slammed against an obstacle?

PetrolTed

34,465 posts

327 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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There was a thread on here the other day discussing this. Someone came on and said he's recently got burned on a track day. I don't know the circumstances but it does happen.

I'm sure there are people who think I'm a nob in my fireproofs, but I'd rather that than have the gear sitting at home while I barbeque.

croftsj

378 posts

262 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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nick_j007 said:
PetrolTed said:
I was on a track day last week and a car caught fire...
I guess you'd have to be trapped in it to really need fireproofs? Presumably upside down or slammed against an obstacle?
Err no, a rear end shunt in a Caterham would see fuel all over you in the blink of an eye which I why I always look silly in a Nomex suit at a track day, I'd rather look silly & sweaty on a hot day than be disfigured for life thanks.

Phil Dicky

7,194 posts

287 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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Race boots would be a must even if the fireproofs aren't

Bitzleftover

133 posts

239 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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Unless you are actually a racing driver, don't bother with fireproofs - you'd look a bit silly!
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I don't wear fireproofs but may do in the future. I think that people who do are just taking safety that bit further, whats wrong with that? It would be the same as using a Hans,its a seatbelt for your head and next to my tackle and drinking arm thats the most treasured part of my body.

fergus

6,430 posts

299 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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PetrolTed said:
There was a thread on here the other day discussing this. Someone came on and said he's recently got burned on a track day. I don't know the circumstances but it does happen.

I'm sure there are people who think I'm a nob in my fireproofs, but I'd rather that than have the gear sitting at home while I barbeque.
Me. Caterham related. I was covered in fuel which was being sprayed at me at 3 bar, which then found the hot exhaust. Luckily I had a full nomex top on and the fuel vapourised pretty quickly, but I have a scar around my wrist where there some exposed skin. I also race, but stupidly didn't wear my overalls that day. I can't imagine what may have happened if I'd been wearing a synthetic top (luckily I don't possess such tat), but it could have literally shrink wrapped me.

As to what someone else thinks of what you look like? Are you really that stupid? (comment not aimed at PT btw)

Wait until you've had a car fire related incident to determine what you believe to be 'cool' or not in the driving wear fashion parade.

It also has nothing to do with how hard you're trying on a trackday or what car you're in. The most freak accidents can and sometime do happen.


nick_j007

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1,600 posts

226 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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So would fireproof underwear do the job, with casuals on top?

I'm with Car limits for the day. There is no mention of flame proof clothing, even says a helmet is not required.

PetrolTed

34,465 posts

327 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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Is it the CarLimits day at North Weald or a track day?

changingman

672 posts

208 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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nick_j007 said:
So would fireproof underwear do the job, with casuals on top?

I'm with Car limits for the day. There is no mention of flame proof clothing, even says a helmet is not required.
Looks like you're doing the driver training day on the 18th. You wont need helmet or special clothing, you'll just be doing various manouvers under instruction from Andy with no other cars close by and loads of run off in case it all goes wrong. Its an excellent day, I've done it, your brain will ache at the end of the day from all of the things you have been told though, have fun

PetrolTed

34,465 posts

327 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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I've done it too. Excellent tuition and has had the most beneficial effect on my track driving of any instruction I've had. I really must do another.

silverthorn2151

6,357 posts

203 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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Some good pointers here for when you venture out on a 'proper' track day that I don't need to add to except to refer you to a debate a while ago about clothing etc at track days.

Frankly I am staggered that anyone taking part here at PH would think someone would silly at a track day in a race suit. Won't reinvent the wheel but what needed to be said was said in this thread.

http://www.pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&a...

I look silly in a tangerine bodystocking and rigger boots. I don't look silly in my race suit. Slow....but not silly!!!!

mattdaniels

7,362 posts

306 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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A.Wang said:
Unless you are actually a racing driver, don't bother with fireproofs - you'd look a bit silly!
Whilst the sentiment I suspect you are trying convey is "all the gear and no idea" I would contend that you'd feel far "sillier" sat in the back of an ambulance on the way to casualty knowing you left your Nomex at home because people thought you looked "a bit silly".

Never take the piss out of anyone for trying to be safe.

A.Wang

541 posts

221 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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mattdaniels said:
A.Wang said:
Unless you are actually a racing driver, don't bother with fireproofs - you'd look a bit silly!
Whilst the sentiment I suspect you are trying convey is "all the gear and no idea" I would contend that you'd feel far "sillier" sat in the back of an ambulance on the way to casualty knowing you left your Nomex at home because people thought you looked "a bit silly".

Never take the piss out of anyone for trying to be safe.
Oops, I feel a bit silly for that throwaway comment now.

Matt - you got that in one, and I would be the last person to mock those who take safety seriously. Indeed, I insist on having a fair few bits of safety equipment on my track day car.

I guess my point is that while fireproofs, HANS devices etc. are needed for competitive racing, track days are meant to be very tame in comparison and to get yourself into a situation where these things are needed, you would probably have been driving way beyond your limit and/or the spirit of track days.

Or you're very unlucky. I'll be quiet and sit in the corner now...

shim

2,051 posts

232 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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fergus said:
Me. Caterham related. I was covered in fuel which was being sprayed at me at 3 bar, which then found the hot exhaust.
If you drive an open coffin then you have to i guess be prepared!!

Ive lost count of the trackdays i have been on with a Caterham driving round spraying fuel out of the side, indicating constantly and then ending up in the litter before getting soaked by the rain