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GT Two

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3,070 posts

216 months

Friday 19th March 2010
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So I need a car which can run me around, drive to the train station and do a few track days in.

Due to current projects I do not want to spend loads on it so needs to be fairly ready out of the box without spending another 10 on suspension, brakes, wheels, seats etc

Any ideas?

I was thinking Clio 182 but can anyone who has done similar give any feedback?

Thanks

kazste

6,082 posts

222 months

Friday 19th March 2010
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http://www.talonsportscars.com/100r.php

go on be a little different. very good reputation, at least as reliable as a 182 and a LOT faster. i have heard mention that a load of lotus drivers were not happy one trackday that they could not keep up with a rover 100 only to find out it was one of these.

they will even do one with a pea shooter exhaust, as the cars exhaust is side exit!

GT Two

Original Poster:

3,070 posts

216 months

Friday 19th March 2010
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kazste said:
http://www.talonsportscars.com/100r.php

go on be a little different. very good reputation, at least as reliable as a 182 and a LOT faster. i have heard mention that a load of lotus drivers were not happy one trackday that they could not keep up with a rover 100 only to find out it was one of these.

they will even do one with a pea shooter exhaust, as the cars exhaust is side exit!
haha bonkers, what roughly would the power to weight be on one for one of these?

qureshia

4,658 posts

230 months

Friday 19th March 2010
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Honda ITR

kazste

6,082 posts

222 months

Friday 19th March 2010
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my guess would be around 750kg so,
160bhp/tonne
191bhp/tonne
213bhp/tonne
would be really quite lively!

kazste

6,082 posts

222 months

Friday 19th March 2010
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re-reading your first post it really does seem as though its ideal for you.

(assuming your man enough of course) wink

V8mate

45,899 posts

213 months

Friday 19th March 2010
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Porsche 944

GT Two

Original Poster:

3,070 posts

216 months

Friday 19th March 2010
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kazste said:
re-reading your first post it really does seem as though its ideal for you.

(assuming your man enough of course) wink
haha my main toy is 650hp with no traction control, not sure I want to up the anti to a fettled metro wink

Its a good option for sure.

kazste

6,082 posts

222 months

Friday 19th March 2010
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i shall now go and hang my head in shame whilst writing out 200 times
"I must check peoples fleet before i mock them"

nice set of cars you have there mate!

GT Two

Original Poster:

3,070 posts

216 months

Friday 19th March 2010
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kazste said:
i shall now go and hang my head in shame whilst writing out 200 times
"I must check peoples fleet before i mock them"

nice set of cars you have there mate!
thanks mate, seriously the metro could be a great idea!

Liking the 944 idea too but would I get a problem car for 4k?

iguana

7,316 posts

284 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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e36 M3-

I ran one 3 yrs/10 trackdays, regular euro trips over alps etc etc, good coilovers & a decent set up, no horror stories in that time, mid 8s ring a/c in full trim, 160mph on the autobahns, almost when 30 mpg driven gently, fast fun blaster just sold @ 4.5k

Now running another, just bit more track spec & tad more $

Also got mx5 track prepped & supercharged, drift days, track days, road use fun fun fun, sub 4k.

Also a decent track prepped Golf, peanuts to run, great at 'ring, good grunt with little $ easily most fun per small $ spent, get a pair of gems for 4k!

Decent track spec e30 325s are ace too loved my old one, easily sub 4k.

edh

3,498 posts

293 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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GT Two said:
kazste said:
i shall now go and hang my head in shame whilst writing out 200 times
"I must check peoples fleet before i mock them"

nice set of cars you have there mate!
thanks mate, seriously the metro could be a great idea!

Liking the 944 idea too but would I get a problem car for 4k?
Yes - if you buy a turbo for £4k. £6k+ might get you a good one, but they can be quite expensive to run. I ran a 944 turbo for 4 years as a road / track car. 944's are lovely road cars - if you find a well cared for one they are a pleasure to steer & drive even at low (commuting) speeds. The 944 feels very nicely balanced on the track but a 2.5 8V won't be very quick. S2 will be faster, but will still be a bit soft & heavy. If it's primarily a road car, then a 944 is a great choice. Take your time to find a good one as there's plenty of rubbish out there.

FWD hatches are going to be the cheapest (and lightest, so cheaper on consumables). I've just bought A048's for my Civic track car - under £350 for a set. A DC2 Integra is a fantastic track car in standard road spec and would fit your budget.

E36 M3 is a great car and would be my choice for a £4k RWD track car - although I'd probably end up spending another £2k on suspension , seats, brakes, 2nd set of wheels/tyres..... It's also a heavy car.

As ever - it's much cheaper to buy a car that is already prepared for track work..



Edited by edh on Saturday 20th March 11:48

Dave_ITR

835 posts

221 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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Honda Integra Type R DC2.

I assume we live in the same area as I see your GT2 every so often.
If so, I'd be happy to take you out in & let you have a look around mine.

I have a 98 spec JDM so not quite £4K money but 96 spec imports & UK cars can be had for that figure.

Let me know.

andye30m3

3,498 posts

278 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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I'd also go for a DC2 over a clio.

Very similar power to weight & running costs but the integra benefits from the LSD, better driving position and in my experience better reliability despite being older and I'd also expect the integra will hold it's value better. Mine sold for £1k more than I paid for it 6 months earlier.


GT Two

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3,070 posts

216 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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Hmmm I have always liked them.... This is very nice

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1532880.htm

Dave, do we train at the same gym?

andye30m3

3,498 posts

278 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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GT Two said:
Hmmm I have always liked them.... This is very nice

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1532880.htm

Dave, do we train at the same gym?
If thats as clean as it looks it's a reasonable price for the age / millage

GT Two

Original Poster:

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216 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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andye30m3 said:
GT Two said:
Hmmm I have always liked them.... This is very nice

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1532880.htm

Dave, do we train at the same gym?
If thats as clean as it looks it's a reasonable price for the age / millage
Interesting what you say about them holding their money.... very appealing.

Dave_ITR

835 posts

221 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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GT Two said:
Dave, do we train at the same gym?
I haven't set foot in a gym for over a year so it's less than likely.

I have owned mine for 2.5 years, has been uber reliable & has held it's value (although I have spent alot on it) very well.


Edited by Dave_ITR on Saturday 20th March 19:12

edh

3,498 posts

293 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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The main thing to check on a DC2 is that there's no oil smoke on VTEC (get someone to follow you when you floor it). Lots of these cars have worn rings now & it's an expensive (~2k) re-build for a 4k car. Tom @ TGM reckons he gets a call about this once every few weeks.

Rust can be a problem - mainly the bonnet leading edge & the rear wings behind the wheel arch

Prices have been pretty steady for a few years - good ones are in demand.

As a daily driver it's not nearly as special to sit in as a 944. You will also get the usual FWD torque steer on bumpy roads. I had both for a while & kept the 944. The DC2 is very noisy on motorways & has poor ventilation - gets hot in the summer.

Having said all that, the DC2 is about as close to a race car as you'll get in a cheap production car IMHO.

Dave_ITR

835 posts

221 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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Off topic but I assume, as I never see any around, that it was your M5 I spotted earlier in Tesco?


Edited by Dave_ITR on Tuesday 23 March 11:00