Pagid Pads - worth the extra?

[Penguinracer]

I'm interested in the Pagid RS29 Yellows (ceramic based) for my trackday machine but they're about 2.5 times the price of EBC Yellows - are they worth the extra?

[GreigM]

In general my experience would say that pagid are well worth the extra over EBC. I used pagid orange in a Porsche GT3 and they were phenomenal on track...but squealed like a bstd when cold, so no use for a road car.

[MrGman]

I've had three sets of Pagids now, never experienced any fade or problems with them, very controllable pad, another benefit is how they last and how easy they are on discs.

Big thumbs up from me.

[steve z]

Oh yes! I use Pagid RS-29s (Yellows) on my R8 and they are fantastic. They aren't cheap but the RS-29s do last a lot longer even with severe abuse.

[teabagger]

I messed about with pads on my e36 m3 for a while.

Then I fitted rs29s and never looked back.

[pikeyboy]

you wont look back i use them on my 968cs, brilliant.

[agent006]

Depends on a whole bunch of things.

I use EBC reds on my BMW, but they make sense over "better" pads for a number of reasons. Firstly, i have very good cooling so heat buildup isn't so much of an issue so i don't need super high temp pads. Pad change is very easy on my calipers, so long life isn't so important beyond a reasonable amount so long as the cost reflects it. My disks are modified to fit, so aren't of-the-shelf items and aren't as cheap as OEM so a pad that wrecks disks is sub-optimal.

You may find different, but my point is just because someone uses Whizz-o-tron 9000 pads in their car doesn't mean they'll work for you in your car.

[oxam]

I had them on my supercharged mcoupe and they were awesome. However recently put carbone loraine RC6 on my mustang and they are phenomenal - and just a tick more expensive than the EBC. Can only recommend them

[flemke]

Penguinracer said:

I'm interested in the Pagid RS29 Yellows (ceramic based) for my trackday machine but they're about 2.5 times the price of EBC Yellows - are they worth the extra?

Pagid have a new compound, RS-15 ("Grey"). From their information, it appears that the Greys have better high-temp fade-resistance than 29s, with a considerably higher low-temp CoF and more initial bite - nice characteristics to have on a track-day car.
They say that the Greys cause "a slight increase in disc wear over other Pagid compounds."

http://www.pagid-brake-pads.co.uk/products/rs15-gr...

[fiveoclockhero1]

oxam said:

I had them on my supercharged mcoupe and they were awesome. However recently put carbone loraine RC6 on my mustang and they are phenomenal - and just a tick more expensive than the EBC. Can only recommend them

I've tried Pagids, 1144's and 1155's on my SC VX220. I now have RC6's and they are the best for this car by a mile IMO. The stopping power is instant and tremendous. They are noisy though (sound like metal on metal) and they do squeal. They wear the discs more than the others I've mentioned but last longer themselves.

[boxsey]

flemke said:

Penguinracer said:

I'm interested in the Pagid RS29 Yellows (ceramic based) for my trackday machine but they're about 2.5 times the price of EBC Yellows - are they worth the extra?

Pagid have a new compound, RS-15 ("Grey"). From their information, it appears that the Greys have better high-temp fade-resistance than 29s, with a considerably higher low-temp CoF and more initial bite - nice characteristics to have on a track-day car.
They say that the Greys cause "a slight increase in disc wear over other Pagid compounds."

http://www.pagid-brake-pads.co.uk/products/rs15-gr...

I've been using these for a year now. Indeed they bite immediately from cold and there's no sign of fade over a 20 minute session. Very pleased with their performance.

[flemke]

boxsey said:

flemke said:

Penguinracer said:

I'm interested in the Pagid RS29 Yellows (ceramic based) for my trackday machine but they're about 2.5 times the price of EBC Yellows - are they worth the extra?

Pagid have a new compound, RS-15 ("Grey"). From their information, it appears that the Greys have better high-temp fade-resistance than 29s, with a considerably higher low-temp CoF and more initial bite - nice characteristics to have on a track-day car.
They say that the Greys cause "a slight increase in disc wear over other Pagid compounds."

http://www.pagid-brake-pads.co.uk/products/rs15-gr...

I've been using these for a year now. Indeed they bite immediately from cold and there's no sign of fade over a 20 minute session. Very pleased with their performance.

Ah, so. Thanks for the feedback. I only came upon the news of them after I bought my most recent set of 29s, and have been wondering whether they were indeed an improvement.
Cheers.

[boxsey]

flemke said:

boxsey said:

flemke said:

Penguinracer said:

I'm interested in the Pagid RS29 Yellows (ceramic based) for my trackday machine but they're about 2.5 times the price of EBC Yellows - are they worth the extra?

Pagid have a new compound, RS-15 ("Grey"). From their information, it appears that the Greys have better high-temp fade-resistance than 29s, with a considerably higher low-temp CoF and more initial bite - nice characteristics to have on a track-day car.
They say that the Greys cause "a slight increase in disc wear over other Pagid compounds."

http://www.pagid-brake-pads.co.uk/products/rs15-gr...

I've been using these for a year now. Indeed they bite immediately from cold and there's no sign of fade over a 20 minute session. Very pleased with their performance.

Ah, so. Thanks for the feedback. I only came upon the news of them after I bought my most recent set of 29s, and have been wondering whether they were indeed an improvement.
Cheers.

The 15s produce a lot of dust and wear faster than the 29s. So while the 15s win on initial bite (and possibly feel), the 29s win the endurance stakes.

[Penguinracer]

Thank you all for your insight & advice. I've purchased a set of RS29s. The RS15s were only available for the rears so I went with the 29s allround.

[flemke]

boxsey said:

flemke said:

boxsey said:

flemke said:

Penguinracer said:

I'm interested in the Pagid RS29 Yellows (ceramic based) for my trackday machine but they're about 2.5 times the price of EBC Yellows - are they worth the extra?

Pagid have a new compound, RS-15 ("Grey"). From their information, it appears that the Greys have better high-temp fade-resistance than 29s, with a considerably higher low-temp CoF and more initial bite - nice characteristics to have on a track-day car.
They say that the Greys cause "a slight increase in disc wear over other Pagid compounds."

http://www.pagid-brake-pads.co.uk/products/rs15-gr...

I've been using these for a year now. Indeed they bite immediately from cold and there's no sign of fade over a 20 minute session. Very pleased with their performance.

Ah, so. Thanks for the feedback. I only came upon the news of them after I bought my most recent set of 29s, and have been wondering whether they were indeed an improvement.
Cheers.

The 15s produce a lot of dust and wear faster than the 29s. So while the 15s win on initial bite (and possibly feel), the 29s win the endurance stakes.

Again, thanks for sharing the info.
Sounds like they're worth trying if one values performance over practicality.

[c_w]

RS15s are designed primarily for cars without servo'd brakes or those that just have poor factory brakes (lacking outright power, fade apart) - this is the reason why the range is very limited. I can imagine they might be hard to modulate if your brakes are normally strong on regular pads.

[Mr Darcy]

Have used Pagid pads for ages now and love them. Never had them fade on track or with spirited driving however the only downsides are

1) Crap till up to temp

2) Crap in when wet

3) Squeal like a pig when driving normally

4) Eat your discs

Overall they do last longer than any other pad I have used and once up to temp they are fantastic.

[Army77]

Does anyone have the running in instructions for rs29 pads? The pads I have for my e36 do not have the metal piece on the back to sit inside the piston, is this correct? Thanks

[Herman Toothrot]

I run Padgid RS4-2's an my VX220 and they are perfect, work perfectly from cold and hanle track perfectly as well. Very good stopping power worth every penny.

[CTO3]

Army77 said:

Does anyone have the running in instructions for rs29 pads? The pads I have for my e36 do not have the metal piece on the back to sit inside the piston, is this correct? Thanks

http://www.racepads.co.uk/downloads/Pagid_Install&Bedding.pdf


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