learning my cars and my limits
learning my cars and my limits
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reccy with claws

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47 posts

192 months

Tuesday 31st August 2010
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just a looking for abit of advise really. im now the very proud owner of a e46 m3 and want to learn to drive her properly. im thinking that a track is the safest and best way todo this. id love tobe able to know how hard i can push the car and when and also learn abit of car control. having all that grunt going through the rear wheels id like to be able to hook it up leaving a wet roundabout maybe with abit of slide (only if its quite of course) and be able to get the maximum out of it. but shes my pride and joy and id be snapped if i wrapped it.so im thinking about maybe a airfield/trackday with a instructor.any advice and prices would be welcome thanks.

fatwomble

1,389 posts

238 months

Tuesday 31st August 2010
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LordGrover

34,092 posts

236 months

Tuesday 31st August 2010
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Ridedrive.

rjnewman

59 posts

227 months

Tuesday 31st August 2010
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+1 forcar limits, lots of practice and Andy knows his stuff. They have a nice big area to practise on as well with nothing to hit.

I learnt lots!

Neal 182

49 posts

209 months

Tuesday 31st August 2010
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What about a low grip drift day you will learn alot about car control doing that trust me been there done that and now when the car starts to slide you don't even think about it you just sort it and a trackday or 2 as well help as well

PetrolTed

34,465 posts

327 months

Tuesday 31st August 2010
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fatwomble said:
The most useful instruction I've yet had.

ferrisbueller

30,202 posts

251 months

Chris71

21,548 posts

266 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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I'd echo the comments above - don't bother with a conventional 'circuit' track day if you want to push the envelope, go to either a car control day or a drift day.

You're definitely making the right call. You'll be amazed at what both your car and yourself are capable of under the right conditions.

I've only done the activity day at Car Limits (cheaper, much less track time and more casual guidance than full-on tuition), but I've heard lots of good things about the full car control days. Andy Walsh's style of instruction does seem to go down better with some people than others, but there's no doubt it's extremely effective.

fergus

6,430 posts

299 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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ferrisbueller said:
If you can get on with Don's style thumbup

flemke

23,412 posts

261 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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reccy with claws said:
just a looking for abit of advise really. im now the very proud owner of a e46 m3 and want to learn to drive her properly. im thinking that a track is the safest and best way todo this. id love tobe able to know how hard i can push the car and when and also learn abit of car control. having all that grunt going through the rear wheels id like to be able to hook it up leaving a wet roundabout maybe with abit of slide (only if its quite of course) and be able to get the maximum out of it. but shes my pride and joy and id be snapped if i wrapped it.so im thinking about maybe a airfield/trackday with a instructor.any advice and prices would be welcome thanks.
Just be really careful - even after having taken instruction or maybe especially because you have taken instruction and think you're on top of it - with breaking the rear loose on a public road. Even the most skilful driver can get caught out if the asphalt's polished or there's a bit of a bump or camber change.

LordGrover

34,092 posts

236 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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Or the dreaded DERV.

Chris71

21,548 posts

266 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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flemke said:
reccy with claws said:
just a looking for abit of advise really. im now the very proud owner of a e46 m3 and want to learn to drive her properly. im thinking that a track is the safest and best way todo this. id love tobe able to know how hard i can push the car and when and also learn abit of car control. having all that grunt going through the rear wheels id like to be able to hook it up leaving a wet roundabout maybe with abit of slide (only if its quite of course) and be able to get the maximum out of it. but shes my pride and joy and id be snapped if i wrapped it.so im thinking about maybe a airfield/trackday with a instructor.any advice and prices would be welcome thanks.
Just be really careful - even after having taken instruction or maybe especially because you have taken instruction and think you're on top of it - with breaking the rear loose on a public road. Even the most skilful driver can get caught out if the asphalt's polished or there's a bit of a bump or camber change.
yes

True, but having that experience can also be a life saver.

I remeber the first time I lost the back end on the road - I was 17, it was totally unexpected and at quite high speed after swerving to avoid some idiot who'd pulled out in front of me (tail happy car, no ESP etc). My (pretty minimal) karting experience was probably the only thing that prevented a spin and a very nasty accident.

reccy with claws

Original Poster:

47 posts

192 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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cheers for the help.im not looking at getting the back end out all the time i done think i could afford new tyres every month.but id like to be able to get hold of things if it goes wrong plus maybe a little drift every now and again.

COBRO

6 posts

192 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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CAT Driver training are also top notch. Plus they have full use of Millbrook testing ground so have high speed bowl, handling circuit, alpine route and skid pan. I used them for exactly the same reason to understand the limits for my 911.

Mrs Muttleysnoop

1,417 posts

208 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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COBRO said:
CAT Driver training are also top notch. Plus they have full use of Millbrook testing ground so have high speed bowl, handling circuit, alpine route and skid pan. I used them for exactly the same reason to understand the limits for my 911.
+ 1.

I have done courses with CAT and Colin is a very special instructor. He is highly qualified.

I was very lucky to have him with me for two laps at the 'Ring last week.

HVAC MATT

1,116 posts

231 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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PetrolTed said:
fatwomble said:
The most useful instruction I've yet had.
agreed.