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Can someone explain to me how listening to music while on circuit is a good thing? It seems to go against all of my instincts and experience.
Have the music on while getting there, and heading home, but on circuit......?
And before i hear it I don't buy the argument that music helps you concentrate. It can only be a distraction on circuit where your aural senses are an important part of skilled driving.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvJtzl-TQAU&fea...
No particular critisism of this chap but it kind of illustrates the point. Don't be fiddling with the hi-fi down the pit straight!
Or am I wrong?
Have the music on while getting there, and heading home, but on circuit......?
And before i hear it I don't buy the argument that music helps you concentrate. It can only be a distraction on circuit where your aural senses are an important part of skilled driving.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvJtzl-TQAU&fea...
No particular critisism of this chap but it kind of illustrates the point. Don't be fiddling with the hi-fi down the pit straight!
Or am I wrong?
I think he's taking the proverbial but he's not helping in the fight against Boxster/Cayman driver stereotyping is he. Check out Disco Donny:
http://www.youtube.com/user/3wheels3#p/a/u/0/CM_Mi...
http://www.youtube.com/user/3wheels3#p/a/u/0/CM_Mi...
Hmmm interesting topic, I suppose it's a personal preferance but surely it's a distraction.
For point proving purposes I've carried out a 3 lap average with music on and music off around Laguna Seca on Forza. I averaged o.12 seconds faster with music on but found it more distracting with it being harder to hear RPM shift points (up and down) and understeer/oversteer ( although the controller vibrates) you'd obviously be able to feal understeer and Oversteer in real life but in this case on the Game it's harder to sense, whereas with music off you can hear tyres being tortured etc.
Very interesting Out come (although a little sad)
Adjusting the stereo along the pit straight is a bit dodgey though surely ????
I shall try the concept around Castle Combe this weekend.
For point proving purposes I've carried out a 3 lap average with music on and music off around Laguna Seca on Forza. I averaged o.12 seconds faster with music on but found it more distracting with it being harder to hear RPM shift points (up and down) and understeer/oversteer ( although the controller vibrates) you'd obviously be able to feal understeer and Oversteer in real life but in this case on the Game it's harder to sense, whereas with music off you can hear tyres being tortured etc.
Very interesting Out come (although a little sad)
Adjusting the stereo along the pit straight is a bit dodgey though surely ????
I shall try the concept around Castle Combe this weekend.
It's something that I've never even thought about. Whenever I get in a road car on-track, I instinctively turn off the likes of the stereo, aircon/fans, etc. But the thought of it sounds quite amusing 
Just don't accidently tune to something like Smooth or Magic and find yourself dozing off!
Just don't accidently tune to something like Smooth or Magic and find yourself dozing off!
When i'm working the pitlane for BaT i would always ask someone to turn the tunes off if they were looking like going out with them on. Obviously i can't enforce this once they head out on circuit.
I do think its a safety issue for the fact that 1) it can be distracting, but mostly 2) you can't easily hear faults with your car, and 3) you can't hear other cars well.
When wearing a helmet you need all your wits about you, not acting like a f
kwit with yer tunes bangin'!
I do think its a safety issue for the fact that 1) it can be distracting, but mostly 2) you can't easily hear faults with your car, and 3) you can't hear other cars well.
When wearing a helmet you need all your wits about you, not acting like a f
kwit with yer tunes bangin'!Well, based on nothing more than careful thunking and a propensity to old man grumpiness I have decided that I don't want to share track space with anyone who think they can drive a track day giving it full attention while they have the radio / cd on.
You wait though, there will be someone along shortly who says 'I can use my phone and drive better than everyone else can drive so who are you to tell me I can't have music on'.
Well I'm telling you. You can't. If you do. You're a knob.
You wait though, there will be someone along shortly who says 'I can use my phone and drive better than everyone else can drive so who are you to tell me I can't have music on'.
Well I'm telling you. You can't. If you do. You're a knob.
silverthorn2151 said:
Well, based on nothing more than careful thunking and a propensity to old man grumpiness I have decided that I don't want to share track space with anyone who think they can drive a track day giving it full attention while they have the radio / cd on.
You wait though, there will be someone along shortly who says 'I can use my phone and drive better than everyone else can drive so who are you to tell me I can't have music on'.
Well I'm telling you. You can't. If you do. You're a knob.
You wait though, there will be someone along shortly who says 'I can use my phone and drive better than everyone else can drive so who are you to tell me I can't have music on'.
Well I'm telling you. You can't. If you do. You're a knob.
Nothing to do with "old man grumpiness", I'm not old and I totally agree. Combine the people who think that radio use is acceptable with the people that think a "chrono" day is a good idea and they may all wipe each other out and leave normal trackdayers in peace... nsa said:
One day I'd like to roll into the pitlane, open windows, blaring the Top Gun theme at full blast.
I'd love to see that.I can't see why you'd want the radio on really, it would distract me and you'd be listening to it with a helmet on.
I prefer listening to the noise of the engine, tyres and whimpers from passengers
I always turn it off if going for a good blast on roads too.Gassing Station | Track Days | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff