Mk1 MX5 track hack - Quick enough?
Mk1 MX5 track hack - Quick enough?
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Onetrackmind

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817 posts

237 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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Hi folks.

I don't fancy taking my E46 M3 on track due to it's weight and cost of tyres, brakes etc. Not to mention the risk of damaging it.

I'm considering picking up a cheap MK1 Eunos and doing some track mods to brakes and suspension etc. My question is, will it be quick enough to be entertaining on track? Anyone offer any advice on this? I don't want to spend all my track time checking my mirrors for people overtaking.

There may be scope in the future to add forced induction but for the time being it will run a standard engine.

Thanks.

pikeyboy

2,349 posts

238 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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It'll be slow releative to the M3 but will surprise you how much speed you cna carry through the bends. It'll teach you to be delicate with your brakes steering throttle so as to conserve momentum. Go for it!beer

editied to add I took a std eunos to spa with gold track spent most of the time on the limiter but by god it was funbiglaugh

Edited by boy on Tuesday 15th March 10:51

worldwidewebs

2,887 posts

274 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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My Mk1 1.6 with ported, flowed and skimmed head is great fun. It was quicker than a std S1 Elise around Oulton last time I was there. Brilliant cars

chris7676

2,685 posts

244 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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worldwidewebs said:
My Mk1 1.6 with ported, flowed and skimmed head is great fun. It was quicker than a std S1 Elise around Oulton last time I was there. Brilliant cars
No, you were driving it quicker.

Raify

6,556 posts

272 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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I've been tracking a standard Mk1 eunos for a while and never really been bothered about the pace of it, even at the 'ring.

I mostly use Lotus On Track, partly because the driving standards are so good, but also because there are less huge speed differentials.

You might get bored at a 'power' track like Silverstone, but it comes into its own at a place like Brands, Cadwell, Anglesey or Snetterton (especially after the revisions recently).

haircutmike

22,457 posts

228 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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I quite often find a pesky MX5 in my mirrors at the end of twisty bits so they can't be bad!

5paul5

664 posts

195 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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Track mine on a regular basis, great fun but a little frustrating when i catch most cars on the twisty bits where you cant overtake and then left for dead on the straights, bit of an elastic band effect.

jimbobs

434 posts

280 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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I bloody hope so, 'cos I've just bought one!

Had an Elise for a number of years, but the eye watering expense of repairs following a small off track excursion made me think about something cheaper.

Picked a Eunos up for the princely sum of £970 Got a set of Gaz Golds in the garage waiting for me to get some spanner time together, then it just needs new pads before I can start spanking it properly. Can't wait.

Ported etc head will follow later - should still get me plenty of change from the Elise!

Excuse slight (but relevant) thread hijack, can anyone recommend a specialist to do the head work??

wackojacko

8,581 posts

214 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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As said above, the out right power and speed will not be high but the cornering speed and ultimate fun factor will ne epic.


Go for it smile

Onetrackmind

Original Poster:

817 posts

237 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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Thanks for the advice.

I used to own a Mk1 RS-Limited which was a cracking car and had 'enough' power for the road, just. Does anyone know if there's a noticeable difference in pace between the 1.6 and 1.8 (both JDM)?

I quite fancy the 1.6 as it's meant to be a little more revvy. I can also bolt on a cheap turbo or SC at a later date as these appear on the second hand market from time to time.

haircutmike

22,457 posts

228 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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jimbobs said:
thread hijack, can anyone recommend a specialist to do the head work??

Raify

6,556 posts

272 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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Wouldn't a 1.8 suit the track better as it already has the bigger brakes?

haircutmike

22,457 posts

228 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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Don't think brakes are an issue.

Seen many race instructors use them completely standard apart from a roll bar!

Raify

6,556 posts

272 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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haircutmike said:
Don't think brakes are an issue.

Seen many race instructors use them completely standard apart from a roll bar!
True enough, I've never come close to overheating the brakes.

Baryonyx

18,232 posts

183 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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I don't think there is a car you can have more fun in for the price. If anything, the low powr will be an asset to you and you'll be able to focus on getting your skills sharpened at a relatively low speed. You'll be able to concentrate on braking points, following the right line, cornering correctly, preserving momentum etc etc.

You may well find that doing things very well at a lower speed is much more exciting than doing them sloppily at higher speeds! And you'll see an improvement in your driving if you take a faster car out too as you've spent time learning the track. They are very popular as tuition cars for this reason.

Not only that, but they're cheap and painless to run, and made for fun. I'd advise you to go with a Mazda!

mikey P 500

1,243 posts

211 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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They are still good fun, but depending on experience you may start to find the lack of pace a frustration after awhile, as said fine on their own on an empty track but you are always looking in your mirrors due to much faster cars on the straights passing and then holding you up in the corners. I sold mine after about 6 track days as I felt I wanted something faster.

worldwidewebs

2,887 posts

274 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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jimbobs said:
Excuse slight (but relevant) thread hijack, can anyone recommend a specialist to do the head work??
Yes. Blink Motorsport - speak to Fraser and tell him I sent you.

A few of the Ma5da racing boys use this head with good results and is what I have fitted.

worldwidewebs

2,887 posts

274 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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chris7676 said:
worldwidewebs said:
My Mk1 1.6 with ported, flowed and skimmed head is great fun. It was quicker than a std S1 Elise around Oulton last time I was there. Brilliant cars
No, you were driving it quicker.
The driving god that I am hahahahahaha

CDP

8,022 posts

278 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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Little power + even less grip = Perfect track-day car.

Just put a proper rollover hoop on it. There's no protection whatsoever in that screen and going sideways into a gravel trap can be unpredictable.

On a circuit the straights are just the things that interrupt the corners.

200Plus Club

13,073 posts

302 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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mikey P 500 said:
They are still good fun, but depending on experience you may start to find the lack of pace a frustration after awhile, as said fine on their own on an empty track but you are always looking in your mirrors due to much faster cars on the straights passing and then holding you up in the corners. I sold mine after about 6 track days as I felt I wanted something faster.
this is very true. if you are experienced then after a while the lack of power on straights will frustrate you on some tracks. also idiots who dont listen at briefings will pee you off, as you climb all over the back of them on a series of bends only for them to blow you away on each straight.
an mx5 tho with 150-200bhp (reliable) would be pretty devastating if set up well. great car for fun and to learn with tho regardless of power. we got rid of ours after a season or two, never let us down and embarrased lots of quick cars on track.