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my partner has just got a degree (2:1) in marketing and I was wondering if anyone knew of any yorkshire based graduate jobs which may be suitable.
she has been for 2 interviews so far and has been offered both jobs but i'm trying to encourage her not to rush into anything.
I like the idea of working for the public sector (final salary pension, redundancy pay, flexitime etc) or also for someone where there are good benefits such as a company car etc.
I know nothing about this myself so if you chaps have any good websites or suggestions please let me know
thanks
she has been for 2 interviews so far and has been offered both jobs but i'm trying to encourage her not to rush into anything.
I like the idea of working for the public sector (final salary pension, redundancy pay, flexitime etc) or also for someone where there are good benefits such as a company car etc.
I know nothing about this myself so if you chaps have any good websites or suggestions please let me know
thanks
At that stage it should all be about the role and not the pension or the car. What she is able to do in her first job is as important, of not more so, than her degree so look for the range of oppprtunities it will give. Marketing can cover anything from the strategic to the mundane, it can lead to a really interesting well paid career but equally it can lead to lots of boring admin.
Personally I'd avoid public sector like the plague, the interesting roles are going to be private sector and it's a lot easier switching from private sector to public later on than it is the other way round.
Personally I'd avoid public sector like the plague, the interesting roles are going to be private sector and it's a lot easier switching from private sector to public later on than it is the other way round.
jonah35 said:
my partner has just got a degree (2:1) in marketing and I was wondering if anyone knew of any yorkshire based graduate jobs which may be suitable.
she has been for 2 interviews so far and has been offered both jobs but i'm trying to encourage her not to rush into anything.
I like the idea of working for the public sector (final salary pension, redundancy pay, flexitime etc) or also for someone where there are good benefits such as a company car etc.
I know nothing about this myself so if you chaps have any good websites or suggestions please let me know
thanks
I'll wait for people to disagree with me, but I found (when job hunting for my first marketing role) that there was way more opportunity in the South and this is where the marketing firms are. Quite a bit of stuff in Bristol also.she has been for 2 interviews so far and has been offered both jobs but i'm trying to encourage her not to rush into anything.
I like the idea of working for the public sector (final salary pension, redundancy pay, flexitime etc) or also for someone where there are good benefits such as a company car etc.
I know nothing about this myself so if you chaps have any good websites or suggestions please let me know
thanks
Avoid the public sector and encourage her to get agency side as quickly as possible, this will open more doors for her and is usually a lot more creative. Client side is usually more strategic. I have an interest in both, and the right agency can help steer her towards an account management/director role (in the long run) so that she can really build her career.
Getting into marketing in the first place is tough. Its competitive and there are more agencies than there are 'interesting' accounts. Unfortunately she's not going to go into an agency where she can work on Nike, Audi, adidas etc straight away, its something she'll have to work for.
Any more queries then ask away!
Very few new entrants to public sector jobs will get in to a final salary pension scheme. Also you should remember that making the eventual move from public to private sector (where the money is) can be very difficult, as employers see you as having less experience in a genuinely commercial world.
New Grads turning down a job offer (especially in the north) does sound a little crazy to me.
New Grads turning down a job offer (especially in the north) does sound a little crazy to me.
Agency Side marketing exposes you to a great many variations on the application of the marketing mix for many different businesses and industry sectors. Gets you very good, all round experience and provides the opportunity to see which area lights your fire. You can also build a very useful network of contacts (suppliers, clients, partners) and can lead to very good self employment opportunities down the line.
Client side marketing is more regimented and less dynamic unless you land an events marketing role with someone like Red Bull.
Don't discount Public Sector rolls. They are similar to client side corporate marketing rolls in that they lack any dynamism but the upside is that training is second to none, you (can) gain a layer of managerial skills that wouldn't get anywhere else and due to the way the sector is governed, you'll never screw up on anything because the system doesn't allow it (in theory!!). The only danger is that it is very very easy to become institutionalised.
Best advice is to gain a broad experience of the complete marketing mix and seek out a specialisation within an industry sector and become an expert in that field. Takes time but well worth it (and yes, I speak from experience).
Client side marketing is more regimented and less dynamic unless you land an events marketing role with someone like Red Bull.
Don't discount Public Sector rolls. They are similar to client side corporate marketing rolls in that they lack any dynamism but the upside is that training is second to none, you (can) gain a layer of managerial skills that wouldn't get anywhere else and due to the way the sector is governed, you'll never screw up on anything because the system doesn't allow it (in theory!!). The only danger is that it is very very easy to become institutionalised.
Best advice is to gain a broad experience of the complete marketing mix and seek out a specialisation within an industry sector and become an expert in that field. Takes time but well worth it (and yes, I speak from experience).
rattyuk2000 said:
Also consider if the employer will support / sponsor her for the CIM Diploma - this is a "must have" for career progression at her age / graduate starting position.
Really? I found that the syllabus for the postgraduate courses was basically identical to my degree (apart from one or two bits here and there)AB said:
She'd be stupid to turn them both down.
There's some truth to this, I have to say. We recently advertised a graduate marketing executive position which we've just filled and there were 100 applicants. That's way more than I've seen for any job previously. I got the impression from the interview stage that most graduates were keen just to get on the ladder and get some experience. Wise choice if you ask me.ETA: My bad, I just checked and it was 96 applicants. But still...
Tallow said:
There's some truth to this, I have to say. We recently advertised a graduate marketing executive position which we've just filled and there were 100 applicants. That's way more than I've seen for any job previously. I got the impression from the interview stage that most graduates were keen just to get on the ladder and get some experience. Wise choice if you ask me.
ETA: My bad, I just checked and it was 96 applicants. But still...
That's low! Most of the schemes I've been applying for in engineering are several hundreds or thousands! Not sure about the one which accepted me though ETA: My bad, I just checked and it was 96 applicants. But still...
Whether this is any use to you or your OH, OP - but Hannah actually got approached by a marketing agency on LinkedIn who wanted to save the hassle of posting the job. Strange but true.
She had a really good profile, outlining all experience to date, a serious looking picture, all her contact details and she joined all the marketing related groups. She also started a Twitter account and posted semi-regular updates about the world of marketing etc, showing that she was keeping up with recent trends.
Obviously it mentioned she was looking to start a career.
They still interviewed her as you would expect and they may well have interviewed a few others but it seems like this may be the way the world is going with social media etc.
Just a thought.
She had a really good profile, outlining all experience to date, a serious looking picture, all her contact details and she joined all the marketing related groups. She also started a Twitter account and posted semi-regular updates about the world of marketing etc, showing that she was keeping up with recent trends.
Obviously it mentioned she was looking to start a career.
They still interviewed her as you would expect and they may well have interviewed a few others but it seems like this may be the way the world is going with social media etc.
Just a thought.
I agree there's significant overlap between the CIM Diploma and typical undergrad marketing degrees, so CIM grant exemptions for certain modules accordingly.
The consideration is that the CIM Diploma is a "gateway" postgrad qualification. You only have to look at the job ads in the trade comics to see that opportunties for "grad +5 years experience" also tend to ask for the CIM Diploma as well.
The consideration is that the CIM Diploma is a "gateway" postgrad qualification. You only have to look at the job ads in the trade comics to see that opportunties for "grad +5 years experience" also tend to ask for the CIM Diploma as well.
some fantastic stuff and help here chaps, thanks.
trouble is, I think i'm more interested in her getting a job than she is.
I think i/we are wasting her time here - I have suggested everything, she's clever and all that stuff but she is into her modelling and I think that's all she wants to do even though the pay is great it is sporadic stuff.
At least we don't live together
I suppose something to learn is when we are on the computer at 10pm at night reading the news/studying etc it is easy to think everyone else is doing the same but reality is most people are having a chocolate biscuit watching some soap etc. The positive from that is it's easy to see why a lot of people on this forum are doing well for themselves - it's simply because they actually give a monkeys about their career.
trouble is, I think i'm more interested in her getting a job than she is.
I think i/we are wasting her time here - I have suggested everything, she's clever and all that stuff but she is into her modelling and I think that's all she wants to do even though the pay is great it is sporadic stuff.
At least we don't live together
I suppose something to learn is when we are on the computer at 10pm at night reading the news/studying etc it is easy to think everyone else is doing the same but reality is most people are having a chocolate biscuit watching some soap etc. The positive from that is it's easy to see why a lot of people on this forum are doing well for themselves - it's simply because they actually give a monkeys about their career.
I employed an aspiring model once, never again. She would take random time off for mysterious illnesses that obviously coincided with her getting a modelling job. Inevitably we didn't put up with that for long and a few years later she is now working as a receptionist. It's a shame, she's quite bright but with no track record of work through her late teens there's always a better candidate now for any better job.
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