Contract termination
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AngryApples

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Anyone here with a legal brain know the law surrounding correct termination of I.T contracts?

bigandclever

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Monday 15th August 2011
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Are you the binner or the binnee?

AngryApples

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LOL binee

edc

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Monday 15th August 2011
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Is your query a TUPE or redundancy one given it has been posted in the Jobs section?

AngryApples

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Ah

No, its Ltd Co supply

Laird

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Monday 15th August 2011
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AngryApples said:
Ah

No, its Ltd Co supply
i.e. you're a contractor?

One week notice is the norm, but this will all depend on your contract terms. Have you read them/got access to them?

bigandclever

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Laird said:
this will all depend on your contract terms
Bingo.

Snoggledog

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Monday 15th August 2011
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Usually it's whatever has been written into your contract.

AngryApples

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Got access, no notice stated or given

They claim a term gives the right to terminate at will (as they have done)

I would add the claimed reason for termination is nothing to do with my performance


bigandclever

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No termination clause means no notice in either direction.

On a happier note, no termination clause(s) is best from an IR35 perspective.

Laird

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Monday 15th August 2011
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AngryApples said:
Got access, no notice stated or given

They claim a term gives the right to terminate at will (as they have done)

I would add the claimed reason for termination is nothing to do with my performance
Par for the course I'm afraid.

All part of being a contractor smile

Snoggledog

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Monday 15th August 2011
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If it's got no termination length written into it and you've signed it, I would say that you've walked straight into that one. Sorry.

AngryApples

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Snoggledog said:
If it's got no termination length written into it and you've signed it, I would say that you've walked straight into that one. Sorry.
But surely if it states supply until 31st January 2012 they would have to give some form of reasonable notice?

Snoggledog

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AngryApples said:
But surely if it states supply until 31st January 2012 they would have to give some form of reasonable notice?
Usually a contract has a duration or end date. However, the company can terminate at any point they like provided that they follow the termination as laid out in the contract. Get looking for something new is all I can suggest. Chalk it up as a loss and make sure you read and agree to all the terms on the next one.

I've been there myself so I know exactly what you're going through. In all likelihood the people who will have put the contract together will have made sure that they are legally covered.

AngryApples

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Hi,

Thanks for the input so far

I have an email stating 1 month reciprocal, would this carry weight in a court?

AngryApples

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"I can confirm with this email that there will be 4 weeks reciprocal notice during the period of your contract"

bigandclever

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It's all still too vague to assess... for instance, in a typical contractor situation let's say your contract is with an agent, and the agent then has a contract with the client. If you have an email from the client saying there's a month's reciprocal notice period, it doesn't matter because your contract isn't with them. If you have the email from the agent, then why isn't it in your contract?

AngryApples

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bigandclever said:
It's all still too vague to assess... for instance, in a typical contractor situation let's say your contract is with an agent, and the agent then has a contract with the client. If you have an email from the client saying there's a month's reciprocal notice period, it doesn't matter because your contract isn't with them. If you have the email from the agent, then why isn't it in your contract?
Thanks B and C

Snoggledog

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As Bigandclever says, it depends on where that mail comes from as to what can or can not be done about it. I have no legal training so can't suggest much beyond advice. If it's been terminated then it's terminated. Depending on how much you stand to loose, is it really worth taking legal action?

AngryApples

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Hi,

the email comes from a representative of the agency

I dont necessarily agree with everything thats been said so far

Particularly with reference to the contract - my contract is with the agency, I have no interest in their contract with the cleint as my legal contract is with them, not their client

It is quite clear in this situation that the client is more valuable to them than I am, thuse they are clearly prepared to attempt to brush me off rather than state clearly to their client that their approach to termination is unnaceptable and they should pay a reasonable penalty.

From what I can see, the Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977 would appear to preclude them just terminating on a whim and obviously its been proved many times that just because a term exists within a contract doesnt make it fair?


UTCR 1977 -

S.3 - Exclusion of liability for breach of contract


S.3 applies where one party deals as a consumer or where there exists a standard form contract. The provisions are subject to the reasonableness test in s.11 and provide restrictions on the other party to the contract's ability to:


Exclude or restrict liability for breach of contract
Provide substantially different performance to that reasonably expected
Provide no performance at all




S.11 - The reasonableness test


The term is required to be a fair and reasonable one to include in the contract.
This is judged by all the circumstance which were known, or ought to have been known or in the contemplation of the parties
The fairness and reasonableness is decided at the time the contract is entered - not with hindsight knowing of the events which in fact occurred
Where the term is restricting rather than excluding liability regard is to be had to the resources of the party seeking to rely on the term and the availability of insurance.
The burden is on the party seeking to enforce the term to show that it was fair and reasonable.

Edited by AngryApples on Monday 15th August 16:18