Prince2 nice to have to employment?
Prince2 nice to have to employment?
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Gazzas86

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1,792 posts

200 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Afternoon Folks,
I'm currently in the Forces, and have the opportunity now to use some of my 3 x £2000 learning credits. (Only allowed to use £2000 per financial year) I'm not going outside (Civvy Street), however im sat behind a desk now for about a year or so and feel I want to improve my CV a little.
A colleague recommended Prince2 as a nice to have qual. to have on your CV. Has anyone got any feelings towards this i.e. is it worth doing? I've done a search on the forums and read previous posts etc. For the people who have completed it is it challenging and take up my life outside of a uniform??.
Any info, much appreciated
Regards
Gaz

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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If you want to be a project manager, or you are a PM, then yes it's useful on the CV.

If not, then I wouldn't employ you just because you had it...

Gazzas86

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1,792 posts

200 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Podie said:
If you want to be a project manager, or you are a PM, then yes it's useful on the CV.

If not, then I wouldn't employ you just because you had it...
Apsolutly agree, however having it opens up avenue's down the line, and i'd rather have it and not need it, then need it and not have it.

I have been looking at also topping up my CMI level 5 Diploma in Management & Leadership upto a Level 7. Once again always useful in the future.


Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Gazzas86 said:
Podie said:
If you want to be a project manager, or you are a PM, then yes it's useful on the CV.

If not, then I wouldn't employ you just because you had it...
Apsolutly agree, however having it opens up avenue's down the line, and i'd rather have it and not need it, then need it and not have it.

I have been looking at also topping up my CMI level 5 Diploma in Management & Leadership upto a Level 7. Once again always useful in the future.
You need to refresh P2 every 5 years, so that may be a consideration.

If you want to get into project management P2 is useful, and useful on the CV. However, P2 without any PM experience is worthless IMO. PM is as much a mindset as qualifications. I've met great PMs without P2, and some crap ones with.

There have been a few threads on P2, so it might be worth mailing the people that did the course in the hope that it would help their CV, to see how they got on.

Do you have any ideas what you want to do when you do come back to civvy street?

Gazzas86

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Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Podie said:
You need to refresh P2 every 5 years, so that may be a consideration.

If you want to get into project management P2 is useful, and useful on the CV. However, P2 without any PM experience is worthless IMO. PM is as much a mindset as qualifications. I've met great PMs without P2, and some crap ones with.

There have been a few threads on P2, so it might be worth mailing the people that did the course in the hope that it would help their CV, to see how they got on.

Do you have any ideas what you want to do when you do come back to civvy street?
I've currently completed 7 years service, worked my way through the ranks extremely quickly; I envisage I will leave at the 12 year point, so 5 years time. I'm giving myself 3 years to complete courses with 2 years put aside for when I go operational. In all honestly, no. I haven’t thought about jobs etc, until now. I want to stay in the Engineering world, as this is my 'bread and butter' however going in at managerial level. (Which is probably why i might pursue my Lvl 7 CMI etc).

regards

Gaz

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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All the best chap, hope it works out for you. smile

If I can help with more specific P2 questions feel free to ask.

BMWBen

4,906 posts

230 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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I'm not a PM and I did it - it's really quite useful, gives you a way of thinking about how to approach projects even if they're not big enough to get a dedicated project team or if you're not running it.

Rude Girl

6,937 posts

288 months

Monday 26th September 2011
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Mrs Podie here. He never finishes a job - same with washing up - washing gets done, drying is left on the draining board...

Anyway, he has P2, but I did the APMP (assoc project managers) qualification. APMP doesn't have a refresh requirement, and the conversion from P2 to APMP or vice versa is not that onerous.

Pod thinks that the APMP qualification is tougher, having seen me do it, but they both have the same gravitas, and the P2 qualification is only required if you are working in a company that uses P2 procedures.

Worth considering; if you are not likely to need P2 for your CV for another 5 years, you might as well do APMP, and then a conversion later, since you'd have to do the refresh in any case.

Anyway, dinner cooked, wine open...

Gazzas86

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Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Rude Girl said:
Mrs Podie here. He never finishes a job - same with washing up - washing gets done, drying is left on the draining board...

Anyway, he has P2, but I did the APMP (assoc project managers) qualification. APMP doesn't have a refresh requirement, and the conversion from P2 to APMP or vice versa is not that onerous.

Pod thinks that the APMP qualification is tougher, having seen me do it, but they both have the same gravitas, and the P2 qualification is only required if you are working in a company that uses P2 procedures.

Worth considering; if you are not likely to need P2 for your CV for another 5 years, you might as well do APMP, and then a conversion later, since you'd have to do the refresh in any case.

Anyway, dinner cooked, wine open...
Many thanks for that!, useful info,
A little update, I've put in to do the Prince2 Foundation & Practitioner course (5 day course in Febuary), and then the APMP course (5 day course in March). I'm not paying for either so no harm in doing them, its not so much the 'having it on my CV' etc the reason for doing the courses, it is in fact kind of another way of seeing things with respect to project management if that makes sense smile.

Hopefully will learn quite a fair bit i imagine smile




Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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The missus makes a good point about APMP. At least you don't have to renew after 5 years.

I'd be interested to know how you get on. I imagine the hardest part will be dealing with the different terms for the same themes in the two.