Holidays - necessary?
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Dr Jekyll

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23,820 posts

290 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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Might be a health thread really. But being new to contracting I'm wary of taking holidays because it means not getting paid. If you're working 40 hours a week mon-fri plus commuting time do you really need holidays? If I go a couple of years with only odd days off for special occasions will I suffer any ill effects?

I've known people who do it, on the other hand I've been told my work might start to suffer. And the people I've known who have gone years without holidays have a lot of freedom as to which 40 or 50 hours in the week they actually work, which must make it easier.


theboss

7,499 posts

248 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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I'd only had one holiday in the last three years as a contractor, until right now when I'm taking a week off between contracts smile So no, I don't think you *need* to take time off.

It's probably a common story but when I started as a contractor I thought "great, I can afford to take 12 weeks holiday and I'll still be earning a packet" except, of course, the reality is that (1) I always feel too busy to be able to take any time off and (2) even if the client/project allows it, you look at the net cost including lost income and think "sod it" as a cheap fortnight break suddenly costs many thousands of pounds.

HOGEPH

5,249 posts

215 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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What is this life if, full of care, We have no time to stand and stare?

Engineer1

10,486 posts

238 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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Do you have a partner? If you do do you honestly think they would cope with you working so hard they can't have a holiday with you?

theboss

7,499 posts

248 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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Engineer1 said:
Do you have a partner? If you do do you honestly think they would cope with you working so hard they can't have a holiday with you?
Mine does... she winges occasionally but ultimately she 'copes' with it

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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I love holidays! If I had to do a job with no holidays I would find a new job!

rog007

5,828 posts

253 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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There is evidence that you can work really hard for quite a long period without breaks, but once you hit the threshold, your performance and health rapidly deteriorate. It's difficult to put a specific time on it as each individual and what they are doing is different. The trouble is, we ourselves are not the best at spotting when we may be getting close to that point. Others can tell when we've passed it though, but by then the trouble has begun. Take a holiday!

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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No, holidays are not a necessity but they are beneficial. In my experience you don't need two weeks on a beach though, a good long weekend is enough to refresh your mind and it also gives you something to look forward to when working hard.

spikeyhead

20,350 posts

226 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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What the fk is the point of earning loads of money if you can't enjoy spending it. I've not had a decent holiday in 30 months, though there have been a few single weeks.

Next year my one plan is at least three months off to recharge the batteries.

cailean

917 posts

202 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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Depends how old you are. You can get burn out if you don't recharge your batteries and as said your effectiveness and health will be affected. You must really really love your job if life is not worth having a break and good holidays with family/friends. There is much more to life than working 40 hours a week (I am not work shy).

Wacky Racer

41,248 posts

276 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

You should work to live, not live to work.....



(To quote a couple of well known phrases).biggrin

marshalla

15,902 posts

230 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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Surely the "premium" paid to contractors is there to make up for the absence of holiday pay (amongst other things) ?

No point being the richest man in the graveyard. No tombstone ever says "He wished he'd worked harder" etc. etc.

Dr Jekyll

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23,820 posts

290 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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marshalla said:
Surely the "premium" paid to contractors is there to make up for the absence of holiday pay (amongst other things) ?

No point being the richest man in the graveyard. No tombstone ever says "He wished he'd worked harder" etc. etc.
In my case the 'contractors premium' covers about 2 days off a month, so bank holidays often use that up.

spikeyhead

20,350 posts

226 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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Dr Jekyll said:
marshalla said:
Surely the "premium" paid to contractors is there to make up for the absence of holiday pay (amongst other things) ?

No point being the richest man in the graveyard. No tombstone ever says "He wished he'd worked harder" etc. etc.
In my case the 'contractors premium' covers about 2 days off a month, so bank holidays often use that up.
Then why are you contracting? Unless there's a 50% premium it's not worth it.

Dr Jekyll

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23,820 posts

290 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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spikeyhead said:
Then why are you contracting? Unless there's a 50% premium it's not worth it.
It's that or the dole queue.

To clarify, the 'premium' is the difference between my contract rate and what I got in the job I was made redundant from. Allowing for pension contribs I'm worse off even if I take no time off at all, so you can understand my reluctance.

Edited by Dr Jekyll on Friday 30th December 17:22

Frik

13,677 posts

272 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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A contractor we had on our team at my last place claimed he had not had a holiday in 10 years. He was wound so tightly it was disturbing. He was let go before we got a chance to find out what he appeared to be hiding in the boot of his car.

Just saying, like.

Mojooo

13,291 posts

209 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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Wacky Racer said:
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

You should work to live, not live to work.....



(To quote a couple of well known phrases).biggrin
+ people who work too hard are sad bds.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

238 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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People who work too hard and take no holidays end up with no friends or family as they slowly drift away as every minute spent with them is time that could have been spent earning. Personally I'd follow my wife's Cousin's solution work from wherever so a jet all over the place with his GF and still be working.

BMWBen

4,906 posts

230 months

Saturday 31st December 2011
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Think about it - you set yourself a target of 5 years to keep earning, and then you'll have enough money to not care about taking a long break and unwinding. The last morning, you're walking into the office, thinking of those long 5 years, remembering how hard you worked, thinking how much you've earned this break. Thinking of how nice it will be to relax with your wife again, rebuild the relationship and start afresh.

Unfortunately you're so engrossed in thought, that you don't look before crossing the last road and BAM.

As you lie slowly bleeding to death on the tarmac, the pain of a crushed pelvis searing through you, what do you think your final thoughts would be?

wink

DJRC

23,563 posts

265 months

Saturday 31st December 2011
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Reckon on a contracting year being 50 weeks.

It makes working out your dosh easier and it gives you a cpl of weeks for holidays.

Simples.