Help! Cannot find decent senior developers or architects

[worldwidewebs]

I'm really struggling to fill a number of roles so any PHers looking for a new permanent role please get in touch asap!

I'm looking to fill a number of system architect roles to work for the world leader in BPM technology. The roles would suit a senior developer or architect and are client based, mainly in the UK but there may be very occasional travel to mainland Europe. Lots of training is on offer and is actively encouraged - in fact anyone taken on would be expected to complete 4-6 weeks of training in the US before joining a project.

No prior experience in BPM is expected although if you do have it then that would be a bonus. Although technically the product set is based on J2EE, the main requirement is an ability to be able to learn, so if your background is MS that isn't necessarily an issue. Good presentation and client-facing skills are a must!

Salary/benefits are towards the top end of market rates

[Crafty_]

Client facing? presentation skills ? Sounds more like a consultant to me, maybe you would have more luck looking at CVs for consultants/analysts.
Developers like to be far away from the customer as they can get

[deckster]

Crafty_ said:

Client facing? presentation skills ? Sounds more like a consultant to me, maybe you would have more luck looking at CVs for consultants/analysts.
Developers like to be far away from the customer as they can get

I'm pretty certain that I work for the OPs client...;)

Assuming I'm correct, then yes it's a consultancy role but very much technically biased and although you would spend all your time on customer site, formal presenting and traditional consulting soft-skills very much play second fiddle to being able to build good systems and deliver results. Accenture-style management consultants really need not apply. You're right though that pure developers with no customer-facing experience are unlikely to make it through - although we have in the past hired people with no consulting experience but made a good impression at interview.

We are hiring aggressively and as the OP says, struggling to find good people. Personally, and with 15-odd years in the industry under my belt, this is the best place I've worked so would encourage anybody with a decent, all-round technical background to apply. We also had an excellent Q4 last year so really need people to come and implement all the projects that we've sold

[trashbat]

worldwidewebs said:

I'm really struggling to fill a number of roles so any PHers looking for a new permanent role please get in touch asap!

I'm looking to fill a number of system architect roles to work for the world leader in BPM technology. The roles would suit a senior developer or architect and are client based, mainly in the UK but there may be very occasional travel to mainland Europe. Lots of training is on offer and is actively encouraged - in fact anyone taken on would be expected to complete 4-6 weeks of training in the US before joining a project.

No prior experience in BPM is expected although if you do have it then that would be a bonus. Although technically the product set is based on J2EE, the main requirement is an ability to be able to learn, so if your background is MS that isn't necessarily an issue. Good presentation and client-facing skills are a must!

Salary/benefits are towards the top end of market rates

Apart from being unusually and rather pleasingly well suited to people who can learn, this is the standard battleship grey job ad. What's good and different about it?

Is it saving fluffy kittens from fires or is it blowing up children for coins? Do you get to write high quality software using best practice, or do you just smash bits of rotten meat together and call it leveraging a synergy? Will I ever get to fight a dragon with a sword? Is there a Klix machine with free coffee and does it taste like bad beef soup?

Extol thy virtues.

[worldwidewebs]

deckster said:

I'm pretty certain that I work for the OPs client...;)

Assuming I'm correct, then yes it's a consultancy role but very much technically biased and although you would spend all your time on customer site, formal presenting and traditional consulting soft-skills very much play second fiddle to being able to build good systems and deliver results. Accenture-style management consultants really need not apply. You're right though that pure developers with no customer-facing experience are unlikely to make it through - although we have in the past hired people with no consulting experience but made a good impression at interview.

We are hiring aggressively and as the OP says, struggling to find good people. Personally, and with 15-odd years in the industry under my belt, this is the best place I've worked so would encourage anybody with a decent, all-round technical background to apply. We also had an excellent Q4 last year so really need people to come and implement all the projects that we've sold

I believe you do

In response to exactly what the role entails, primarily it will be the designing and implementation of systems based on the company's core product for our clients, who are world leaders in the fields of financial services, healthcare, insurance, communications and government.

Initially it would be expected that you would be performing predominantly implementation in order to better understand the product, but the intention is for you to rapidly progress into leading implementations from the technical perspective. This is not a development role though, in fact we discourage writing code, but it is a technical one - albeit one that requires the ability to see beyond the technology in order that we can better understand the clients' needs and help them meet their business objectives.

Gartner projects revenue in the business process management (BPM) market will grow at an average rate of 15%. We have been growing at more than twice that rate despite an overall downturn in the global economy.

If you're looking for a place to stagnate - this is not the company for you!

[72EuropaTC]

Is this the role which has been advertised having an induction period in the US?

[worldwidewebs]

72EuropaTC said:

Is this the role which has been advertised having an induction period in the US?

Yes

[72EuropaTC]

you have PM

[worldwidewebs]

72EuropaTC said:

you have PM

Reply sent

[ClaphamGT3]

Ah - as I feared, you're using "architect" in the inappropriate, some-sort-of-IT-geek context rather than its true meaning of someone who has actually spent upwards of seven years of structured learning to join one of the recognised, learned professions.

/dons geek-proof jacket

[ClaphamGT3]

Ah - as I feared, you're using "architect" in the inappropriate, some-sort-of-IT-geek context rather than its true meaning of someone who has actually spent upwards of seven years of structured learning to join one of the recognised, learned professions.

/dons geek-proof jacket

[cwis]

ClaphamGT3 said:

Ah - as I feared, you're using "architect" in the inappropriate, some-sort-of-IT-geek context rather than its true meaning of someone who has actually spent upwards of seven years of structured learning to join one of the recognised, learned professions.

/dons geek-proof jacket

Goddamn lippy jumped up brickies...

[deckster]

cwis said:

ClaphamGT3 said:

Ah - as I feared, you're using "architect" in the inappropriate, some-sort-of-IT-geek context rather than its true meaning of someone who has actually spent upwards of seven years of structured learning to join one of the recognised, learned professions.

/dons geek-proof jacket

Goddamn lippy jumped up brickies...

Give 'em a GCSE in technical drawing and they think they're god's gift...