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New dept. manager started last year. Nice enough person but has the people skills of a hissing rattle snake and is professionally retarded.
2 staff members have left and another has refused to work in the department completely.
At what point do you as the boss/hr/manager realise that it might not be the staff at fault and maybe the manager should be changed??
I don't expect anything to happen as there is a constant circle-jerk between many of the 'management' types.
There must be a limit though?
2 staff members have left and another has refused to work in the department completely.
At what point do you as the boss/hr/manager realise that it might not be the staff at fault and maybe the manager should be changed??
I don't expect anything to happen as there is a constant circle-jerk between many of the 'management' types.
There must be a limit though?
Techn0 said:
New dept. manager started last year. Nice enough person but has the people skills of a hissing rattle snake and is professionally retarded.
2 staff members have left and another has refused to work in the department completely.
At what point do you as the boss/hr/manager realise that it might not be the staff at fault and maybe the manager should be changed??
I don't expect anything to happen as there is a constant circle-jerk between many of the 'management' types.
There must be a limit though?
Talk to the leavers, if any two of them tell you the guy is a 2 staff members have left and another has refused to work in the department completely.
At what point do you as the boss/hr/manager realise that it might not be the staff at fault and maybe the manager should be changed??
I don't expect anything to happen as there is a constant circle-jerk between many of the 'management' types.
There must be a limit though?
, without having compared notes, then the guy is a and needs the boot.I think the manager has got her superiors eating out of her hand.
Oooohhh the stress of my job and mortgage to pay
She has a piss easy job that could be done by monkey and isn't remotely hard or stressful. No pressure to make decent profit or hit targets.
But Im safe in the knowledge that she will be there for many years to come still earning st money.
Oooohhh the stress of my job and mortgage to pay
She has a piss easy job that could be done by monkey and isn't remotely hard or stressful. No pressure to make decent profit or hit targets.
But Im safe in the knowledge that she will be there for many years to come still earning s
t money.(a) That's what exit interviews are for
(b) After 1 year the managerial chain of command should be detecting the possibility of managerial problems if the department/area is not performing to satisfaction. If the entire chain of command seems oblivious or impotent then that's their problem. High staff turnover could be indicative of a new head sorting out a dept., but even so the turnover and reasons should be being monitored independently (by HR?)
If you are directly involved or impacted by it then you need to find the right ear to talk to in order to effect change.
If you're not directly involved or impacted by it then enjoy watching from the sidelines.
(b) After 1 year the managerial chain of command should be detecting the possibility of managerial problems if the department/area is not performing to satisfaction. If the entire chain of command seems oblivious or impotent then that's their problem. High staff turnover could be indicative of a new head sorting out a dept., but even so the turnover and reasons should be being monitored independently (by HR?)
If you are directly involved or impacted by it then you need to find the right ear to talk to in order to effect change.
If you're not directly involved or impacted by it then enjoy watching from the sidelines.
Edited by 72EuropaTC on Monday 13th February 13:40
The department is breaking even.
However, it seems that there seems to be a new drama every week and no-one wants to work with said manager.
I'm in the fortunate position of only being there temporarily(says 18 months later) - they know this so I'm never in the st as it were.
HR cannot be trusted as any thing said privately is soon common knowledge.
It seems to me that said manager just wants to kick up a fuss to hide their own mediocre performance.
Clearly its a case of put up or shut up and the leaving staff have made their own choice and moved on.
Its just crap when your team works well together and you look forward to going to work, then suddenly it becomes a real chore and hateful because of the manager.
However, it seems that there seems to be a new drama every week and no-one wants to work with said manager.
I'm in the fortunate position of only being there temporarily(says 18 months later) - they know this so I'm never in the s
t as it were.HR cannot be trusted as any thing said privately is soon common knowledge.
It seems to me that said manager just wants to kick up a fuss to hide their own mediocre performance.
Clearly its a case of put up or shut up and the leaving staff have made their own choice and moved on.
Its just crap when your team works well together and you look forward to going to work, then suddenly it becomes a real chore and hateful because of the manager.
Edited by Techn0 on Monday 13th February 14:05
I had a boss who was a short arrogant mean-spirited coward and bully. Lots of people left. Lots of people still work there only because they have to. However his results speak for themselves. Which is why the bosses think the sun shines out of his ar5e and he's paid substantially in excess of 6 figures.
Countdown said:
I had a boss who was a short arrogant mean-spirited coward and bully. Lots of people left. Lots of people still work there only because they have to. However his results speak for themselves. Which is why the bosses think the sun shines out of his ar5e and he's paid substantially in excess of 6 figures.
Very similar situation , a few years ago. The man was such a fool it was embarrassing to witness his b/s. he had the people sklls of a rock. Everybody disliked him , his team , his manager , the client , you name it. Anybody who came into contact with him. But the guy consistently brought multi million pound contracts in on time and budget. Nobody really cared as long as he continued to do it.
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