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Odie

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4,187 posts

211 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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How do i know if my efforts are work are going to go unrewarded or if the significant extra effort i've put in over the last 6 months will be rewarded in due time.

My father thinks i'm being taken for a ride and i'm starting to feel that way too.

Today I've just been informed that my line manager will be being changed from a divisional manager to a project manager.

Any advice and tips gratefully received.

iphonedyou

10,406 posts

186 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Odie said:
How do i know if my efforts are work are going to go unrewarded or if the significant extra effort i've put in over the last 6 months will be rewarded in due time.

My father thinks i'm being taken for a ride and i'm starting to feel that way too.

Today I've just been informed that my line manager will be being changed from a divisional manager to a project manager.

Any advice and tips gratefully received.
In my experience, somebody close to you thinking you're being taken for a ride is often the first indicator that you are being taken for a ride.

Can you not ask your employer this question? Phrased correctly, it should cause no offence.

rog007

5,828 posts

253 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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I you feel fairly rewarded for a fair days work then all should be well. If there's an imbalance either way then you or your employer would have a view. If its not in your favour, I'd have an informal chat about it with your LM, covering current role and it's remuneration as well as discussing options for development and advancement. Good luck!

Jerry Can

5,164 posts

252 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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don't be under any illusion that your line manager would actually want to help you progress. Especially if he is merely adequate and you are good.

there are plenty of mediocre middle managers out there - you know the ones, time served, 50+ 'steady pair of hands' they will actively, by being inactive, not put your case for career development across. They don't want you being their boss after all.

If you have been there a couple of years, and are performing well and are well liked, then you need to come up with an idea as to how you want your role/career to progress, write it down in a form of job description, which hopefully fits in nicely with the 'challenges' your business faces. Then talk to and submit it to HR for review. Keep pushing for the changes to happen, give it 6 months, if after that time they cannot give you all, or some of what you want, time to move on - as they are clearly not interested in your career.

Odie

Original Poster:

4,187 posts

211 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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Jerry Can said:
don't be under any illusion that your line manager would actually want to help you progress. Especially if he is merely adequate and you are good.

there are plenty of mediocre middle managers out there - you know the ones, time served, 50+ 'steady pair of hands' they will actively, by being inactive, not put your case for career development across. They don't want you being their boss after all.

If you have been there a couple of years, and are performing well and are well liked, then you need to come up with an idea as to how you want your role/career to progress, write it down in a form of job description, which hopefully fits in nicely with the 'challenges' your business faces. Then talk to and submit it to HR for review. Keep pushing for the changes to happen, give it 6 months, if after that time they cannot give you all, or some of what you want, time to move on - as they are clearly not interested in your career.
Thanks Jerry, I've done very similar things to what you have said, had frank conversations with directors and a member of HR who all seem more interested in managing me out of feeling like I do (undervalued) than trying to help me progress my career within the company. So that I continue doing the work im doing for the same amount of pay. Ive been in the same role for 7 years and have built the role from nothing, I wrote the job description, which I re-wrote/refined in 2010 (iirc) at the request of my line manager.

I dont feel that within this company they are dynamic enough to create a role that defines what I do better, especially if im already doing the role in my current position, their is no advantage for them even changing my job description/job title.

It is time for me to move on but im struggling to find position that I think suit all my skills, I am considering going it alone but that would need alot more research from me in the market and requirements for someone with my knowledge/skills.

My career is very emotive for me and I wouldnt consider myself in a rut, I like the company and the people within it, I like its morals & creedo, I like the direction its heading and always have. I like the challenges and rise to them and commit to them.

Ive just become confused to why 'the company' will not commit to me, Im starting to think that perhaps the people that are letting a great company down.

Im by no means perfect and have some personallity challenges but im working through these and understand where I need to be. We all have our strength and weakness's.