PHers - Offer me a job with a twist.
PHers - Offer me a job with a twist.
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AnonymousCaller

Original Poster:

50 posts

183 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Edited by AnonymousCaller on Tuesday 14th August 00:40

oldbanger

4,328 posts

267 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Hello again

Please define good.

Thanks

hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Why do you wish to circumvent a standard recruitment interview process, which is designed to find the best candidate for the job?

extraT

1,876 posts

179 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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hornetrider said:
Why do you wish to circumvent a standard recruitment interview process, which is designed to find the best candidate for the job?
Define standard.

As a sales roles go, this used to be the norm before the internet annonymised everything. "show me what you can do, and if you're any good i'll hire you". Infact the BBC have made a hell of alot of money doing something like this with a certain show....

Anyway, OP, sorry to highjack. I'll point a friend to this thread and let him do the rest if thats ok.

GarryA

4,700 posts

193 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Dance instructor?

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,993 posts

264 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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hornetrider said:
Why do you wish to circumvent a standard recruitment interview process, which is designed to find the best candidate for the job?
Blimey. He/she is just using some nouse & networking.

Olivera

8,740 posts

268 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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hornetrider said:
Why do you wish to circumvent a standard recruitment interview process, which is designed to find the best candidate for the job?
Furthermore, why should an employer break the law by not adhering to minimum wage and employment legislation? A genuine internship can offer no pay but must empart a suitable learning experience which is unlikely to let you "prove how good you are".

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
hornetrider said:
Why do you wish to circumvent a standard recruitment interview process, which is designed to find the best candidate for the job?
Blimey. He/she is just using some nouse & networking.
yes it's a recession and jobs are hard to come by. You can't knock a bloke for trying smile

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,993 posts

264 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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What a negative bunch.

I for one support the get of your arse & make it happen attitude.

rog007

5,828 posts

253 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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This approach actually matches two proven theories; interviewing alone is insufficient to find the best person for a role, but if interview is all you have, then 3 key areas need determining: can you do the job, do you enjoy doing the job and will you fit the organisation. Some may say that OP's approach would help determine the latter better than an interview? I would however imagine some sort of pre-selection would still be required (CRB if neccesary, legally entitled to work, check references, check quals etc, etc).

oldbanger

4,328 posts

267 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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Look it's great to keep trying but it's getting on for a year now since graduation. Is it time to stop holding out for a good job yet? How do you even tell which ones are good ones without a bit of experience under your belt?

What have you been dong to fill your time and your cv in the meantime?

And if you change your mind I still have vacancies that need filling.

ETA genuine jobs in one of your desired fields, just not in the City. I won't ask a third time.


Edited by oldbanger on Friday 15th June 11:45

Cyder

7,186 posts

249 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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HTH

singlecoil

35,826 posts

275 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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Cyder said:
HTH
I'd be surprised if it does help, especially as this is the Jobs forum and not the Lounge where jokes belong.

Cyder

7,186 posts

249 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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Sorry misery guts, I must have missed the rule that says any light hearted jokes or gentle piss taking must be confined to the lounge.

Actually on topic, good on the OP for trying a different approach, knowing a number of people who are scrabbling around looking for stuff this is probably one of the most proactive approaches I've seen, it's rare to see anyone (especially grads) offering something in return for nothing just to get noticed.

Good luck thumbup

hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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singlecoil said:
I'd be surprised if it does help, especially as this is the Jobs forum and not the Lounge where jokes belong.
Actually it seems the OP has posted three or four similar threads going back quite some time, so I'd be interested to hear what jobs he's taken in the meantime to prove to an employer he's prepared to graft and has a strong work ethic, rather than waiting for his dream job to land in his lap.

stefd

290 posts

257 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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Surely what you've just described is an internship? Most last far longer than one week though.

singlecoil

35,826 posts

275 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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Cyder said:
Sorry misery guts, I must have missed the rule that says any light hearted jokes or gentle piss taking must be confined to the lounge.
It's not a rule, it's a matter of good form.

Cyder

7,186 posts

249 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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You are of course entitled to your opinion.

AnonymousCaller

Original Poster:

50 posts

183 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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Thanks for the responses everyone, though I wasn't quite expecting the thread to turn out like this.

oldbanger said:
Hello again

Please define good.

Thanks
Interesting (subjective I know), good opportunities for progression, a chance to learn something new. Not too concerned with salary, just want a foot in the door.

GarryA said:
Dance instructor?
Thanks but no thanks, don't know anything about dancing.

oldbanger said:
Look it's great to keep trying but it's getting on for a year now since graduation. Is it time to stop holding out for a good job yet? How do you even tell which ones are good ones without a bit of experience under your belt?

What have you been dong to fill your time and your cv in the meantime?

And if you change your mind I still have vacancies that need filling.

ETA genuine jobs in one of your desired fields, just not in the City. I won't ask a third time.


Edited by oldbanger on Friday 15th June 11:45
Hello again,

I'm not holding out for the ideal job.

I've been applying for seemingly basic jobs, some of which are in industries not mentioned in my OP.

I have applied to some jobs that do not require/mention degrees. Local retail doesn't want me either.

To fill my time, I've been lending a hand to my dad's business and going to the gym a lot.

Thanks, I'd like to hear more about the vacancies you have. I've not limited myself to the City. I drove 450 miles a few weeks ago for a job I didn't get. Do you have anything close to London/The South? Thanks.

AnonymousCaller

Original Poster:

50 posts

183 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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hornetrider said:
Actually it seems the OP has posted three or four similar threads going back quite some time, so I'd be interested to hear what jobs he's taken in the meantime to prove to an employer he's prepared to graft and has a strong work ethic, rather than waiting for his dream job to land in his lap.
Been applying to all sorts (including non-grad, such as retail and admin).

Have tried a bit of networking, offering to work for free to gain experience, etc. Nothing so far.

Currently lending a hand for my dad's business.

Not holding out for a dream job, just a half decent chance.