Trainee train driver jobs in Liverpool &'manchester....
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crazy about cars said:
Is that correct??? How long does it take to pass as a fully qualified driver? 31 days holidays and over £40k salary. I bet they have a lot of applicants :P
It takes just under a year to train as a qualified driver, and it is a lot of hard work. After that you have two years driving before becoming 'fully' qualified. Every TOC has different terms and conditions regarding pay/holiday etc although most have a 35 hour week. In our TOC we work around 42-45 hours a week meaning we get every fifth week off as well as our 28 days holiday! I moved into driving from mechanical engineering and havent regretted it for one second, I love my job. Don't forget the advertised salary can be improved greatly by working overtime, some of which you have to work.Edited by Pugland53 on Saturday 7th July 21:29
Edited by Pugland53 on Saturday 7th July 21:30
jonah35 said:
£44,000 plus 31 days holiday!
the final salary pension has to be worth an additional £10,000 plus per year to your package so that's around a £55,000 package with 31 days holiday.
Not bad really is it?
Goes some way towards explaining why trains are so bloody expensive!the final salary pension has to be worth an additional £10,000 plus per year to your package so that's around a £55,000 package with 31 days holiday.
Not bad really is it?
Just shows the power of unions - there is no other explanation for such a ridiculous salary for a relatively unskilled job.
HeatonNorris said:
jonah35 said:
£44,000 plus 31 days holiday!
the final salary pension has to be worth an additional £10,000 plus per year to your package so that's around a £55,000 package with 31 days holiday.
Not bad really is it?
Goes some way towards explaining why trains are so bloody expensive!the final salary pension has to be worth an additional £10,000 plus per year to your package so that's around a £55,000 package with 31 days holiday.
Not bad really is it?
Just shows the power of unions - there is no other explanation for such a ridiculous salary for a relatively unskilled job.
Manicminer said:
HeatonNorris said:
Goes some way towards explaining why trains are so bloody expensive!
Just shows the power of unions - there is no other explanation for such a ridiculous salary for a relatively unskilled job.
How much do you feel a train driver should earn?Just shows the power of unions - there is no other explanation for such a ridiculous salary for a relatively unskilled job.
HeatonNorris said:
jonah35 said:
£44,000 plus 31 days holiday!
the final salary pension has to be worth an additional £10,000 plus per year to your package so that's around a £55,000 package with 31 days holiday.
Not bad really is it?
Goes some way towards explaining why trains are so bloody expensive!the final salary pension has to be worth an additional £10,000 plus per year to your package so that's around a £55,000 package with 31 days holiday.
Not bad really is it?
Just shows the power of unions - there is no other explanation for such a ridiculous salary for a relatively unskilled job.
£1000pw for being responsible for 200 plus lives, in addition to working unsocial hours.
£150,000pw for being proficient at kicking a football around three hours a week.
Not really that ridiculous...is it?....
Ok fair enough, I was just interested in the thinking behind why you consider a train driver to be low skill and overpaid.
Personally I feel that with any skilled job that requires a long period of training it's counter productive to then pay a low wage, you'll just lose your trained staff. Market forces generally dictate wages, that or weak management.
Personally I feel that with any skilled job that requires a long period of training it's counter productive to then pay a low wage, you'll just lose your trained staff. Market forces generally dictate wages, that or weak management.
Manicminer said:
Thanks, interesting to note you blame unions for high wages and train fares rather than the train companies.
What is it you do out of interest?
It proves his lack of knowledge on the subject, I guess he's been reading too much Daily Mail. What is it you do out of interest?
Railway wages under BR were not very good. Once the railway became re-privatised wages have raised quite dramatically, at the cost of local agreements/terms and conditions.
One bonus of good wages is the standard of applicant on the railway, especially for drivers, many now have degrees or other professional qualifications.
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-20...
Makes good reading, not sure how accurate it is though as they lump my profession in with pilots on average of 71k - most Engs I know are on less than 50k after 20 plus years of experience. We're also heavily unionised but market forces dictate our wages.
Another article which makes interesting reading
http://www.mysalary.co.uk/average-salary/Train_Dri...
Makes good reading, not sure how accurate it is though as they lump my profession in with pilots on average of 71k - most Engs I know are on less than 50k after 20 plus years of experience. We're also heavily unionised but market forces dictate our wages.
Another article which makes interesting reading
http://www.mysalary.co.uk/average-salary/Train_Dri...
Edited by Manicminer on Saturday 7th July 23:11
HeatonNorris said:
Goes some way towards explaining why trains are so bloody expensive!
Just shows the power of unions - there is no other explanation for such a ridiculous salary for a relatively unskilled job.
Typical reply of someone who has no idea of what he is talking about, The extortionate costs network rail charge the tocs to use the tracks is nothing to do with it either then.Just shows the power of unions - there is no other explanation for such a ridiculous salary for a relatively unskilled job.
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