what to do? Advice needed
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Tubbytommy

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569 posts

226 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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I have been working for the past 3 years and have applied for a job in the same field of work and have had interviews and been offered the new job. I told my current employer that I was leaving and he keeps making offers to keep me. The new place has loads of benefits but does have some down sides. In my current place they have a few benefits and a few down sides. My wife wants me to take the new job as the pros outweight the cons. My current employer yesterday told me he had to keep me there and offered me a deal and pressured me into staying. Now I don't know what to do, I want the new job but I don't want to let my current boss down as I class him as a mate. What would the PH members suggest.

slow_poke

1,855 posts

263 months

Saturday 25th August 2012
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He's not your mate tubby, he's your boss. Do you think he wouldn't lay you off if his business needed to? If he valued you so much he should have kept you happy when you were working there, not tried to sweeten you up when you handed in your notice. Something made you decide to leave in the first place, hunt another job, get intervied and beoffered the other job. Has that changed since?

Listen to your wife and do what she says. She's right, you know.

warp9

1,632 posts

226 months

Sunday 26th August 2012
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Listen to your instinct - which one is going to make you happy?

hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Sunday 26th August 2012
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warp9 said:
Listen to your instinct - which one is going to make you the most cash?
EFA.



warp9

1,632 posts

226 months

Sunday 26th August 2012
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hornetrider said:
EFA.
I hear you. But cash don't necessarily equal happy. Depends on them priorities and all that.

Zad

13,005 posts

265 months

Sunday 26th August 2012
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Go with the new job. Your boss has realised he will have to train someone to do your job now, so is trying to mae his own life easy. But if you stay then you will go back to being invisible in a few weeks. Meanwhile you have just burned one of your escape bridges.

Terminator X

20,465 posts

233 months

Sunday 26th August 2012
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Just leave. If they pursuade you to stay I guarantee it will only last a while then you'll want to leave again sometime soon.

TX.

rog007

5,828 posts

253 months

Sunday 26th August 2012
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Without any further information upon which to make an informed judgement; I sense the kirk think you should leave. From my perspective; if you're ambitious and see yourself on an upward trajectory, then as long as you're moving for at least a 20% increase in total remuneration, you should be thinking of moving at thev3-year point anyway. Good luck!

lestag

4,614 posts

305 months

Monday 27th August 2012
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Only you know, but I think you have already gone , you just don't know it yet. There is a reason you went to interviews
Explain to the boss that you have to try it, no hard feelings etc , you may be back in 6 months looking for a job smile

mondeoman

11,430 posts

295 months

Monday 27th August 2012
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Everytime we get someone saying that they have been made a fantastic offer to stay at the old place after getting offered a new job, guaranteed that within 6 months they're back on the market.

The reasons for wanting to leave very rarely get addressed, and the lure of the extra money soon wears off.

You made a decision to leave, you've done all the hard work, now bugger off and enjoy your new job. If your old boss really wanted you, he'd've made sure your overall package made it impossible for you to want to leave. He didn't, now you have, too late for him I reckon.

Tubbytommy

Original Poster:

569 posts

226 months

Monday 27th August 2012
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Thanks for all your replies, due to leave next Monday while he is away. He is convinced that I won't go, if I just left one day and never returned would I be a git? I know it's burning bridges but hey ho never liked it anyway.

pacman1

7,324 posts

222 months

Monday 27th August 2012
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Paramount in my mind would be job security. Who do you feel most confident with?

craigjm

21,381 posts

229 months

Monday 27th August 2012
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Put yourself in this scenario.....

Imagine that it is now 2015 and you are still in your current job with the extra pay etc. Thinking back to the new job offer would you think "what if?"

If you would then the new job is for you.

Tubbytommy

Original Poster:

569 posts

226 months

Monday 27th August 2012
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pacman1 said:
Paramount in my mind would be job security. Who do you feel most confident with?
The guy I work for now has said that he will keep the place going for the next 10 years at least but he owns the place no one else, he could decide to close it next year for all I know whereas the new place is a large company and has the vision of expansion. I think my mind is made up but if I do just down tools and go is there anything he can do? He doesn't owe me anything and I owe him nothing. I just don't want him turning up at the new place trying to cause a scene. My mate is the manager at the new place would it be worth a call to him to keep him in the picture?

craigjm

21,381 posts

229 months

Monday 27th August 2012
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Tubbytommy said:
if I do just down tools and go is there anything he can do? He doesn't owe me anything and I owe him nothing.
As long as you work your contractually agreed notice period then you will be fine,

AJS-

15,366 posts

265 months

Monday 27th August 2012
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Don't take the counter. It almost never works out because you will be thinking you would rather have taken the other role, for all the reasons you originally wanted to, and your boss will think you are leaving, and he's just bought himself another 6 months.

He may be a mate but for that conversation he's your employer. Thank him for his offer, but tell him your mind is made up and you won't be getting into any further negotiations.

If practical as regards the new job, and you really value the connection that perhaps work out an extra couple of weeks to help get a new guy up to speed.

cossy400

3,461 posts

213 months

Monday 27th August 2012
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craigjm said:
Put yourself in this scenario.....

Imagine that it is now 2015 and you are still in your current job with the extra pay etc. Thinking back to the new job offer would you think "what if?"

If you would then the new job is for you.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this is what i did,

Very similar situation to the OP, worked for a company for 3 yrs, got offered a new job, was a very small amount less a week in wages but was a 15 min journey to work rather than a 45 min journey.

Company i was working for never offered me more money but offered me a fully paid for van and fuel card.

I mulled it over for a whole weekend pros/cons etc, bottom line was WHAT IF. whether it was 2 months or 2 yrs before i asked myself what if.

Anyway i left been in the new job for 7 weeks and really enjoying it.

Tubbytommy

Original Poster:

569 posts

226 months

Monday 27th August 2012
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I'm not actually contracted with the company, the new company is all contracted. As I get a brand new company car and fuel card with the new place the current boss offered me a 10 year old Mercedes A Class and no fuel card to try to sweeten the deal. As you can imagine it soured the deal on comparrison.

Tubbytommy

Original Poster:

569 posts

226 months

Monday 27th August 2012
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I'm not actually contracted with the company, the new company is all contracted. As I get a brand new company car and fuel card with the new place the current boss offered me a 10 year old Mercedes A Class and no fuel card to try to sweeten the deal. As you can imagine it soured the deal on comparrison.

Tubbytommy

Original Poster:

569 posts

226 months

Monday 27th August 2012
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I'm not actually contracted with the company, the new company is all contracted. As I get a brand new company car and fuel card with the new place the current boss offered me a 10 year old Mercedes A Class and no fuel card to try to sweeten the deal. As you can imagine it soured the deal on comparrison.