Technical Clerk for an aviation Company
Discussion
I am currently preparing my application for a job with the aforementioned job title. One of the reposnsibilties that I would have if I get appointed, is maintaining product trees for all the models of the the A380.
I have never seen a product tree for a plane (not that the A380 is any other plane ! ), and hence would like to understand what it is. Could somebody please throw light on their use in the aviation industry and the number of details that it might include ?
I have never seen a product tree for a plane (not that the A380 is any other plane ! ), and hence would like to understand what it is. Could somebody please throw light on their use in the aviation industry and the number of details that it might include ?
Edited by revvedup on Saturday 20th October 17:32
Is this a production-planning (engineering) role or more procurement (Logs) role?
From my brief understanding of Production Planners, they are on IPCs all day long looking at mod kits or applying for RDs (repair drawings), pre-loading materials for servicing and making sure spares are up to spec and what is involved, they liase with the design office & workshops. This is inbetween googling for scantily clad women. That's just a very vague understanding, but the guys have done around 10 years on the shop floor in various roles.
The other less technical guys in the office just seem to be there to make up numbers, I'm not sure exactly what they do apart from drink the carcenegenic coffee from the machines all day
From my brief understanding of Production Planners, they are on IPCs all day long looking at mod kits or applying for RDs (repair drawings), pre-loading materials for servicing and making sure spares are up to spec and what is involved, they liase with the design office & workshops. This is inbetween googling for scantily clad women. That's just a very vague understanding, but the guys have done around 10 years on the shop floor in various roles.
The other less technical guys in the office just seem to be there to make up numbers, I'm not sure exactly what they do apart from drink the carcenegenic coffee from the machines all day
I'm an engineer, not designing aircraft but other types of vehicles. Note this is based on my own experiences, and might not quite reflect the actual role your looking at, it could be different in other industries/companies!
We have staff in our office who do 'technical admin' type jobs - which sounds similar to what your looking at.
They work as a sort of go-between, between us the engineers/designers, and the buyers, stock controllers, materials inventory and manufacturing side of things.
Part of their role is maintaining the BOMS, or 'trees' as they are calling them.
These are the lists of everything that is required to build the vehicles. An interesting way to look at it, is imagine if every single member of staff quit on the same day - would a brand new bunch of guys know what to put together to build or fix an A380? It could be your job to make sure that all that information required is up to date and recorded.
So when I say I'm changing the design of a part to include 2 brackets and 4 screws, they have to update the 'BOM' to reflect this, which in turn means that the rest of the company knows what to buy, build, or fix.
Key things they have to be is accurate, good with numbers, and have a good basic technical understanding about what there dealing with. You'll probably work on some complex database type software. It will be part numbers, drawings numbers and codes galore I reckon. More interesting that a 'generic' clerks or admin type job though.
We have staff in our office who do 'technical admin' type jobs - which sounds similar to what your looking at.
They work as a sort of go-between, between us the engineers/designers, and the buyers, stock controllers, materials inventory and manufacturing side of things.
Part of their role is maintaining the BOMS, or 'trees' as they are calling them.
These are the lists of everything that is required to build the vehicles. An interesting way to look at it, is imagine if every single member of staff quit on the same day - would a brand new bunch of guys know what to put together to build or fix an A380? It could be your job to make sure that all that information required is up to date and recorded.
So when I say I'm changing the design of a part to include 2 brackets and 4 screws, they have to update the 'BOM' to reflect this, which in turn means that the rest of the company knows what to buy, build, or fix.
Key things they have to be is accurate, good with numbers, and have a good basic technical understanding about what there dealing with. You'll probably work on some complex database type software. It will be part numbers, drawings numbers and codes galore I reckon. More interesting that a 'generic' clerks or admin type job though.
Edited by snotrag on Monday 22 October 22:42
VidalBaboon said:
Is this a production-planning (engineering) role or more procurement (Logs) role?
From my brief understanding of Production Planners, they are on IPCs all day long looking at mod kits or applying for RDs (repair drawings), pre-loading materials for servicing and making sure spares are up to spec and what is involved, they liase with the design office & workshops. This is inbetween googling for scantily clad women. That's just a very vague understanding, but the guys have done around 10 years on the shop floor in various roles.
The other less technical guys in the office just seem to be there to make up numbers, I'm not sure exactly what they do apart from drink the carcenegenic coffee from the machines all day
http://www.randstad.co.uk/jobs/technical-clerk_5414194/From my brief understanding of Production Planners, they are on IPCs all day long looking at mod kits or applying for RDs (repair drawings), pre-loading materials for servicing and making sure spares are up to spec and what is involved, they liase with the design office & workshops. This is inbetween googling for scantily clad women. That's just a very vague understanding, but the guys have done around 10 years on the shop floor in various roles.
The other less technical guys in the office just seem to be there to make up numbers, I'm not sure exactly what they do apart from drink the carcenegenic coffee from the machines all day
It is more of a Production based role, although I called them only to discover that the role had ben filled internally. What are IPCs ? Must say, very nicely put !
snotrag said:
I'm an engineer, not designing aircraft but other types of vehicles. Note this is based on my own experiences, and might not quite reflect the actual role your looking at, it could be different in other industries/companies!
We have staff in our office who do 'technical admin' type jobs - which sounds similar to what your looking at.
They work as a sort of go-between, between us the engineers/designers, and the buyers, stock controllers, materials inventory and manufacturing side of things.
Part of their role is maintaining the BOMS, or 'trees' as they are calling them.
These are the lists of everything that is required to build the vehicles. An interesting way to look at it, is imagine if every single member of staff quit on the same day - would a brand new bunch of guys know what to put together to build or fix an A380? It could be your job to make sure that all that information required is up to date and recorded.
So when I say I'm changing the design of a part to include 2 brackets and 4 screws, they have to update the 'BOM' to reflect this, which in turn means that the rest of the company knows what to buy, build, or fix.
Key things they have to be is accurate, good with numbers, and have a good basic technical understanding about what there dealing with. You'll probably work on some complex database type software. It will be part numbers, drawings numbers and codes galore I reckon. More interesting that a 'generic' clerks or admin type job though.
Thanks Snotrag, what kind of company do you work for ? We have staff in our office who do 'technical admin' type jobs - which sounds similar to what your looking at.
They work as a sort of go-between, between us the engineers/designers, and the buyers, stock controllers, materials inventory and manufacturing side of things.
Part of their role is maintaining the BOMS, or 'trees' as they are calling them.
These are the lists of everything that is required to build the vehicles. An interesting way to look at it, is imagine if every single member of staff quit on the same day - would a brand new bunch of guys know what to put together to build or fix an A380? It could be your job to make sure that all that information required is up to date and recorded.
So when I say I'm changing the design of a part to include 2 brackets and 4 screws, they have to update the 'BOM' to reflect this, which in turn means that the rest of the company knows what to buy, build, or fix.
Key things they have to be is accurate, good with numbers, and have a good basic technical understanding about what there dealing with. You'll probably work on some complex database type software. It will be part numbers, drawings numbers and codes galore I reckon. More interesting that a 'generic' clerks or admin type job though.
Your example made the concept of change control software pretty clear. Do you think a job like this could help one make the transition to a fully fledged designer within the same company ?
Edited by revvedup on Saturday 27th October 19:35
BOM = bill of material in airbus speak.
Considering the amount of effort[**] it took just to get the first 4 customers wave 1 aircraft electrical wiring harnesses and routing defined along with the fittings you are welcome to it mate.
[**] It would have been difficult enough without the French nationalistic ideals of a few of their badly placed middle/upper managers.
As for wave 2, well it worked out good in the end.
Considering the amount of effort[**] it took just to get the first 4 customers wave 1 aircraft electrical wiring harnesses and routing defined along with the fittings you are welcome to it mate.
[**] It would have been difficult enough without the French nationalistic ideals of a few of their badly placed middle/upper managers.
As for wave 2, well it worked out good in the end.
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