Had a phone interview yesterday...
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It went well as far as I was concerned. The lady said it would last around 15-20 minutes and I was on the phone for about 45 minutes. She seemed to like what I was saying and said she will get back to me, so wish me luck please guys!
I also wanted to ask how we approach the salary side of things. It is advertised with a wage range of between X and Y. It is quite a bit further for me to travel so I would rather my new wage covered my costs comfortably, although both wages are easily more than I earn now.
How do I approach that when it comes up? She asked if I was happy with the salary range and I explained that while I wouldn't have applied if the money wasn't acceptable, I would hope that if they offered me the job they would be doing it because I was the best candidate available and therefore, deserving of the higher wage? Does that sound like a good way to approach it?
I also wanted to ask how we approach the salary side of things. It is advertised with a wage range of between X and Y. It is quite a bit further for me to travel so I would rather my new wage covered my costs comfortably, although both wages are easily more than I earn now.
How do I approach that when it comes up? She asked if I was happy with the salary range and I explained that while I wouldn't have applied if the money wasn't acceptable, I would hope that if they offered me the job they would be doing it because I was the best candidate available and therefore, deserving of the higher wage? Does that sound like a good way to approach it?
Donatello said:
It went well as far as I was concerned. The lady said it would last around 15-20 minutes and I was on the phone for about 45 minutes. She seemed to like what I was saying and said she will get back to me, so wish me luck please guys!
I also wanted to ask how we approach the salary side of things. It is advertised with a wage range of between X and Y. It is quite a bit further for me to travel so I would rather my new wage covered my costs comfortably, although both wages are easily more than I earn now.
How do I approach that when it comes up? She asked if I was happy with the salary range and I explained that while I wouldn't have applied if the money wasn't acceptable, I would hope that if they offered me the job they would be doing it because I was the best candidate available and therefore, deserving of the higher wage? Does that sound like a good way to approach it?
You need to be careful about salary range especially if it's a large one unless of course you have a few offers and are confident to bag at least one of them. I got my current job because I didn't ask for the max (or more) than the salary range. Safest is to answer what I am hoping to get is [~80% of max] but I am happy to discuss futher inregards to this.I also wanted to ask how we approach the salary side of things. It is advertised with a wage range of between X and Y. It is quite a bit further for me to travel so I would rather my new wage covered my costs comfortably, although both wages are easily more than I earn now.
How do I approach that when it comes up? She asked if I was happy with the salary range and I explained that while I wouldn't have applied if the money wasn't acceptable, I would hope that if they offered me the job they would be doing it because I was the best candidate available and therefore, deserving of the higher wage? Does that sound like a good way to approach it?
The top range is normally reserved for good candidates with lots of experience/proven track record.
Depending on your experience in the roll. You could agree to amount X now, then a review after 3 or 6 months with a view to increasing on completion of satisfactory probation. This could secure you the job and also get you an increase when you've settled in.
I've done this in the past and its always worked out OK.
Obviously it involves a bit of trust between you and the employer,but that may not be a bad way to start your working relationship.
Good luck. Andy
I've done this in the past and its always worked out OK.
Obviously it involves a bit of trust between you and the employer,but that may not be a bad way to start your working relationship.
Good luck. Andy
Hum, Money. They want the best they need to pay for it. Be clear that you expect to be offered the job because you are the best candidate, and keep telling them why you are the best candidate, and NEVER discuss salary, until the offer it to you.
It was a shock to realise that I have been completely under pricing myself for years.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
In my last Permanent Role I was earning £32K max.
It was a shock to realise that I have been completely under pricing myself for years.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
In my last Permanent Role I was earning £32K max.
Well I got another call and got offered the job, but when we came to talking about money, I felt they were taking the piss.
I used the 20% increase and the 'I'm the right man for the job so should be rewarded' tactic but the starting wage they offered would have left me scraping the pennies just to get to work. It was more than I'm on now but much more travel.
They gave me an offer of 'start at this, we will review after 6 months' but I didn't trust the way it was being put across.
I've got a little one on the way and didn't want to get into all the extra travelling and end up without the raise in 6 months. It just didn't feel right
I used the 20% increase and the 'I'm the right man for the job so should be rewarded' tactic but the starting wage they offered would have left me scraping the pennies just to get to work. It was more than I'm on now but much more travel.
They gave me an offer of 'start at this, we will review after 6 months' but I didn't trust the way it was being put across.
I've got a little one on the way and didn't want to get into all the extra travelling and end up without the raise in 6 months. It just didn't feel right
Donatello said:
Well I got another call and got offered the job, but when we came to talking about money, I felt they were taking the piss.
I used the 20% increase and the 'I'm the right man for the job so should be rewarded' tactic but the starting wage they offered would have left me scraping the pennies just to get to work. It was more than I'm on now but much more travel.
They gave me an offer of 'start at this, we will review after 6 months' but I didn't trust the way it was being put across.
I've got a little one on the way and didn't want to get into all the extra travelling and end up without the raise in 6 months. It just didn't feel right
You got offered the job straight after a phone interview ... on a phone? Hmm... a bit weird but perhaps I'm just over paranoid as normally you'll be invited to a 2nd/3rd interview where you will be formally offered job and also discuss pay and terms.I used the 20% increase and the 'I'm the right man for the job so should be rewarded' tactic but the starting wage they offered would have left me scraping the pennies just to get to work. It was more than I'm on now but much more travel.
They gave me an offer of 'start at this, we will review after 6 months' but I didn't trust the way it was being put across.
I've got a little one on the way and didn't want to get into all the extra travelling and end up without the raise in 6 months. It just didn't feel right
The review after 6 months thing is common practice though - same with myself when I started. I got a raise @ 6 months and another at the 12 month mark. If you feel that the cost of commuting will outweigh actually getting the job try to tell them you need some time to consider and look elsewhere in the mean time.
crazy about cars said:
You got offered the job straight after a phone interview ... on a phone? Hmm... a bit weird but perhaps I'm just over paranoid as normally you'll be invited to a 2nd/3rd interview where you will be formally offered job and also discuss pay and terms.
The review after 6 months thing is common practice though - same with myself when I started. I got a raise @ 6 months and another at the 12 month mark. If you feel that the cost of commuting will outweigh actually getting the job try to tell them you need some time to consider and look elsewhere in the mean time.
Yeah I agree, as I said before it just didn't feel right. I wouldn't have been going straight into branch but I would have been paid the wage and placed on an 8 week training programme (I would get the job subject to successful completion of the programme). Then my in branch employment would begin and it would be 6 months until pay was reviewed.The review after 6 months thing is common practice though - same with myself when I started. I got a raise @ 6 months and another at the 12 month mark. If you feel that the cost of commuting will outweigh actually getting the job try to tell them you need some time to consider and look elsewhere in the mean time.
I understand it is fairly common for a review to take place for newer employees and I'll expect that anywhere, but the extra travel wouldn't have been covered by the extra wage. I would have been a few hundred quid out of pocket and I can't really risk that if the pay rise doesn't materialise.
It was strange, they contacted me originally as I had set my sights on more local jobs and they are about 30+ miles away (not massive I know but my car is quite thirsty and my current commute is quite short).
I don't know, I'm not really sure what it was, it just didn't feel right and the person I spoke to didn't come across all that well from the start of the call.
Donatello said:
Yeah I agree, as I said before it just didn't feel right. I wouldn't have been going straight into branch but I would have been paid the wage and placed on an 8 week training programme (I would get the job subject to successful completion of the programme). Then my in branch employment would begin and it would be 6 months until pay was reviewed.
I understand it is fairly common for a review to take place for newer employees and I'll expect that anywhere, but the extra travel wouldn't have been covered by the extra wage. I would have been a few hundred quid out of pocket and I can't really risk that if the pay rise doesn't materialise.
It was strange, they contacted me originally as I had set my sights on more local jobs and they are about 30+ miles away (not massive I know but my car is quite thirsty and my current commute is quite short).
I don't know, I'm not really sure what it was, it just didn't feel right and the person I spoke to didn't come across all that well from the start of the call.
Ah I see... I've had a tempting job prospect before where the commuting costs just won't add up (even though annual pay higher but actual take home will be slightly lower) so I've decided to wait.I understand it is fairly common for a review to take place for newer employees and I'll expect that anywhere, but the extra travel wouldn't have been covered by the extra wage. I would have been a few hundred quid out of pocket and I can't really risk that if the pay rise doesn't materialise.
It was strange, they contacted me originally as I had set my sights on more local jobs and they are about 30+ miles away (not massive I know but my car is quite thirsty and my current commute is quite short).
I don't know, I'm not really sure what it was, it just didn't feel right and the person I spoke to didn't come across all that well from the start of the call.
Was this through an agency/recruiter or the company contacted you directly? From what I understand the remunerations doesn't sound right so if I were you I'll just sit tight, build up current experience and look for other jobs
Would the pay rise after 6 months cover your commuting costs?crazy about cars said:
Ah I see... I've had a tempting job prospect before where the commuting costs just won't add up (even though annual pay higher but actual take home will be slightly lower) so I've decided to wait.
Was this through an agency/recruiter or the company contacted you directly? From what I understand the remunerations doesn't sound right so if I were you I'll just sit tight, build up current experience and look for other jobs Would the pay rise after 6 months cover your commuting costs?
That is the issue I was having. I could probably just about cover the costs on the starting wage, but I'd be putting barely anything aside for March when our little one arrives. I'd rather be in this job (as sWas this through an agency/recruiter or the company contacted you directly? From what I understand the remunerations doesn't sound right so if I were you I'll just sit tight, build up current experience and look for other jobs
Would the pay rise after 6 months cover your commuting costs?
t as it is) and save some money each month.The pay-rise would definitely cover my costs and I'd be £3-400 a month better off after that, but I wouldn't have it in writing and would be pushing it for 6 months on the starting wage. Just wasn't worth the risk for me at the moment.
I applied for a job with them at a more local branch, I missed the closing date by the time they received my CV but 2 months later they contacted me about this job, a slightly superior senior role.
Donatello said:
That is the issue I was having. I could probably just about cover the costs on the starting wage, but I'd be putting barely anything aside for March when our little one arrives. I'd rather be in this job (as st as it is) and save some money each month.
The pay-rise would definitely cover my costs and I'd be £3-400 a month better off after that, but I wouldn't have it in writing and would be pushing it for 6 months on the starting wage. Just wasn't worth the risk for me at the moment.
I applied for a job with them at a more local branch, I missed the closing date by the time they received my CV but 2 months later they contacted me about this job, a slightly superior senior role.
Definitely not worth the risk especially if you are expecting a little one soon t as it is) and save some money each month.The pay-rise would definitely cover my costs and I'd be £3-400 a month better off after that, but I wouldn't have it in writing and would be pushing it for 6 months on the starting wage. Just wasn't worth the risk for me at the moment.
I applied for a job with them at a more local branch, I missed the closing date by the time they received my CV but 2 months later they contacted me about this job, a slightly superior senior role.
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