Is management accounting a profession?
Is management accounting a profession?
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Lostprophet

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2,549 posts

198 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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I need to write an essay discussing the above... I am a tad bit lost. Any ideas? anyone? its approx 1700 words long!

Any accounts/finances folks have any ideas? The essay is suppose to be reflective. I have a mirror but still no joy!

Due in on Friday!

blippo1984

358 posts

175 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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Accountancy is.

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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The answer is that accountancy is a profession, all management accountants are accountants, so by association yes.

But the question is a bit like asking "is gynaecology a profession?"; obviously doctoring is a profession, but gynaecology is a subset of that.

I really don't know why I picked gynaecology by the way.

The answer is pretty obvious, so that's not what is actually being asked of you here, by the sounds of it. What sort of course is the essay for?

Rotary Madness

2,285 posts

215 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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So is it doing the accounting for the management, or Managing the accounting?

Stupid title either way, like most titles these days.

big_boz

1,685 posts

236 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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I am an accountant, i just make numbers up all day long and fanny about with excel and SQL...apparently its my chosen career.

God knows how you are going to write 1700 words on the subject



Landlord

12,689 posts

286 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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big_boz said:
God knows how you are going to write 1700 words on the subject
"Accountancy is a professional ergo management accountancy is a profession. Management accountants deal with numbers such as one, two, three, four, five, six..." [then carry on until the total number of words is 1,700]

HTH

big_boz

1,685 posts

236 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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Landlord said:
Accountancy is a professional ergo management accountancy is a profession. Management accountants deal with numbers such as one, two, three, four, five, six..." [then carry on until the total number of words is 1,700]

HTH
This is the only way you will achieve the appropriate word count.


MoelyCrio

2,502 posts

211 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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Are they not asking "Is management accounting a profession distinct from accounting"?

Financial accountants - add stuff up to make numbers
Auditors - check the numbers
Management accountants - use the numbers to manage the business

MrPicky

1,233 posts

296 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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Those accountants on here are assuming that it is obvious to all-and-sundry that management accounting has anything to do with money or balance sheets.

Contrast that with the job of a security auditor who doesn't have to hold the qualifications that a financial auditor needs.

I'm sure that there are a number of other examples.


P-Jay

11,401 posts

220 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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I wouldn't think so, well not per-se, ether way it's not a role I'm familiar with.

Management Accounts are more of the end product, ala being a brewer is a profession, but beer is not, Management Accounts are the Beer.

In practice they're compiled by the Bookkeepers or Accountants, in industry it can be the FD.

We also have Accountants who are Managers of their team, part of their role is to manage and develop their Assistants and Bookkeepers.

But with some many new hybrid roles being created by cost sensitive companies and so many wky titles being invented by Recruitment / HR types, who knows.

UberMeister

312 posts

181 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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I suggest you take a look at the CIMA website.

Alfa numeric

3,167 posts

208 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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Monthly reports help those in charge understand the direction the company is taking, and help highlight any movements away from the set budget. In this way any potential issues can be identified and dealt with promptly and any opportunities can be maximised.

Budgeting and forecasting help to steer the company and ensure that it remains profitable.

Is that ok for a start?


And welcome to the Dark Side...

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

241 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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MrPicky said:
I'm sure that there are a number of other examples.
turf accountant?

blippo1984

358 posts

175 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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UberMeister said:
I suggest you take a look at the CIMA website.
This is a good idea

Stuart70

4,154 posts

212 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Correctly speaking (pedant mode) religion, medicine and law are professions.

Accountancy is a trade.

As a lawyer, qualified as an accountant and working as a management accountant in financial services, I am a tradesman and none the worse for that!

Pedant mode off...

jaedba2604

3,899 posts

176 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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[quote=MoelyCrio
Management accountants - use the numbers to manage the business
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No they don't, they create reports that help manage the business.

My contention would be that management accountants tend to be less transferable than other accountants, they are more entrenched in the business and the systems.

In the current economic climate managing the balance sheet and cash flow is as important. Management accountants struggle with balance sheets in my experience.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Being a professional is a state of mind - not a qualification.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

241 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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jaedba2604 said:
Management accountants struggle with balance sheets in my experience.
Why do you say that?

RealSquirrels

11,327 posts

221 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Stuart70 said:
Correctly speaking (pedant mode) religion, medicine and law are professions.

Accountancy is a trade.

As a lawyer, qualified as an accountant and working as a management accountant in financial services, I am a tradesman and none the worse for that!

Pedant mode off...
but there are professional bodies for accountancy?

(just like there are for seemingly everything else now).


RealSquirrels

11,327 posts

221 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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CaptainSlow said:
jaedba2604 said:
Management accountants struggle with balance sheets in my experience.
Why do you say that?
a stab in the dark here, but perhaps he has experience of management accountants who struggle with balance sheets.