Would you hire someone and give a 60% salary jump
Would you hire someone and give a 60% salary jump
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Z064life

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1,926 posts

277 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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Hi,


I was recently involved in playing a role in interviewing someone. The candidate has had a rocky career path/work experience in his few yrs of working. Despite this, his salary jump (our agency has asked about his existing salary) is just less than 60% (26k to 40k ballpark). My title was meant to stress that, while that's the expected salary jump, the candidate has a dodgy CV (gaps etc) but I could not fit this into the title.


Given someone who hasn't stayed in one job for a long time and has had a rocky career (though not all his fault, one of those jobs of many led to a redundancy), would you hire someone like this and honour a requested pay?

The other question is, to blag a higher salary, could candidates not just lie about their salary? Also, AFAIK asking about salary does not infringe on any HR laws (note I am in IT so just participating in technical interviews).

londonbabe

2,159 posts

221 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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I've had bigger jumps than that. Mind you usually I was also trading up responsibility and seniority.

What another employer paid me for doing a different job is not relevant.

Hire him if you think he can do the job and pay him what you think he is worth.



edc

9,620 posts

280 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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What is the candidates actual expectation?

There is little point debating the merit of a salary increase if the candidate won't accept your offer!

If you think they would be agreeable at a lower rate than your max budget then make that offer. If there is merit in a review after a probationary period with targets then go with that.

rog007

5,828 posts

253 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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Salary increases as you've described are not usually a source of concern for an organisation that has advertised a role at a fixed salary. Of greater concern is whether the candidate can do the role advertised and add early value. If the selection process is robust then I'd have confidence in the candidate. If a CV does not add up however and neither the interview or references can placate me then I'd follow my instinct.


Mattt

16,664 posts

247 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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Does serial redundancy not ring alarm bells?

Yes it could be a case of serial misfortune, but if they've been continually judged to be the weakest link...

spikeyhead

20,359 posts

226 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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Mattt said:
Does serial redundancy not ring alarm bells?

Yes it could be a case of serial misfortune, but if they've been continually judged to be the weakest link...
Before I went contracting I was made redundant twice and jumped from another position a month before the place shut down within the space of three years. It happens through downturns and it's usually easier to get rid of someone that's recently started.

Odie

4,187 posts

211 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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He/She can either do the job or they cant, the pay is irrelevant really as it should be the going rate for the roll, if you are questioning their CV etc, perhaps you shouldnt offer this person the job and go for another candidate.

matchmaker

9,033 posts

229 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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When I moved from my last job to my current one my salary increased by over 60%. Mind you, that just meant it went from piss poor to almost a living wage frown

zbc

1,058 posts

180 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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What about putting a pre agreed pay rise in the contract? So give them +30% when you employ them and agree to give them another +30% at the end of the year subject to certain targets/goals being achieved. It could even be backdated. It should at least be a negotiation point...

chalkey

89 posts

170 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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my 2 pence is that no one is going to be overly happy with 26k with bills ect to pay so that would explain the history to me

ive found it easier in the past to move companies to get the money i want rather than wait for the payrise thats never going to happen

if the guy can do the job give him a chance, didnt you ever just need a break from a potential employer?

limpsfield

6,660 posts

282 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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chalkey said:
my 2 pence is that no one is going to be overly happy with 26k with bills ect to pay so that would explain the history to me
pretty much the average UK salary

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20442666

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

241 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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limpsfield said:
pretty much the average UK salary

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20442666
Average UK salary isn't really relevant.

Slurms

1,254 posts

233 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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What a previous employer was willing to pay has very little to do with my consideration of any candidate presented to me.

Previous employers may have been under-paying or over-paying I have no way to know.

All that matters is can they do the job i'm advertising and are they willing to work for what i'm offering?

If the answers to both of those are yes then why does it bother me if they've been earning £2.50 an hour or £250,000 a year previously.

limpsfield

6,660 posts

282 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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CaptainSlow said:
limpsfield said:
pretty much the average UK salary

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20442666
Average UK salary isn't really relevant.
My point was in relation to the previous poster: highlighting the patchy CV and doubting people would stick around for 26k when in fact it is what a lot of people do

clived

577 posts

269 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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Just ask for P60s and keep in mind his P45 will reveal current salary on arrival. As for the increase %'age, surely the questions are (a) do we want to employ him, (b) what do we pay for this role? If you want him, it doesn't matter what he was earning before.

Jasandjules

72,574 posts

258 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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If he is suitably qualified and that is the salary!?!?!?