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Wheelrepairit

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3,045 posts

233 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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A friend of mine has just told me a issue he is having, and I for the life of me cant think why the company in question would do it.

Friend works for a company, has done so for over 10 yrs, lets call them ABC, he gets paid monthly, bank account showing paid by ABC, and his contract shows he works for ABC .

Then, approx 18 months ago he gets a letter, saying instead of saying ABC on his bank account when paid, it will say 123. Other than that, no changes.

Then, sept last year he leaves working for company in question, and has been trying ever since to get his P45.

Last week he asked his accountant to call company ABC and ask for it, cue the wages clerk screaming down the phone saying he never worked for them, saying he worked for a job agency.

Turns out company 123 is a job agency, he still hasnt managed to get his P45 but at least he is on the right track.

So my question is, why have company ABC done this, what advantage is there to them, is it a tax thing, as far as he knew he was still working for company ABC, he had NO new contract of employment with company 123.

Very strange indeed.


simoid

19,774 posts

187 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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Wheelrepairit said:
Then, approx 18 months ago he gets a letter, saying instead of saying ABC on his bank account when paid, it will say 123. Other than that, no changes.
Definitely, definitely no other changes?

Du1point8

22,857 posts

221 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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whats strange is your friend not questioning it at all.

could be used in case of redundancy, they work for agency and so their contract is not being renewed rather than them being terminated.

did he get sick and holiday pay from agency?

Big boss skimming off a % using his agency?

Looks dodgy either way.

Wheelrepairit

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3,045 posts

233 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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Du1point8 said:
whats strange is your friend not questioning it at all.

could be used in case of redundancy, they work for agency and so their contract is not being renewed rather than them being terminated.

did he get sick and holiday pay from agency?

Big boss skimming off a % using his agency?

Looks dodgy either way.
He still got same wages, same holiday, same everything.

He has the name of company 123, the agency, not sure if im allowed to post it up on here, we cant find out any infomation about company 123 on the web at all.

Ref the boss skimming money off, ive just mentioned that and he says he remembers seeing a letter in the office regarding the boss getting x amount each month, calling it "Payroll kick back".

The plot thickens.

mondeoman

11,430 posts

295 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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Call HMRC, they'll know who has been paying his NI and PAYE contributions - and they'll also be VERY interested if someone is trying to screw them over.

Has ABC been put into liquidation or anything else? Try the Companies House website

edc

9,622 posts

280 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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Is this related to TUPE? From what you right it might be a possibility but the detail is scarce. Regardless of that if there is no P45 forthcoming then simply submit a P46.

Wheelrepairit

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Wednesday 24th April 2013
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edc said:
Is this related to TUPE? From what you right it might be a possibility but the detail is scarce. Regardless of that if there is no P45 forthcoming then simply submit a P46.
No idea what that is, sorry.

edc

9,622 posts

280 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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It could be that the department or work that your friend is in or has been doing has been outsourced or transferred out to another company. TUPE is the regulations that cover scenarios of this type.