Any sparks out there? Advice on course needed
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It's time for me to better myself career wise.
I've been in building services for 7 odd years and currently I have a basic City and Guilds in electrics.
I have booked myself on 17th but want to know where to go next.
Browsing Reed etc, it seems employers want 2391. Is it advisable to go straight from 17th straight into 2391? At the mo I have basic skills in fault finding, 3 phase and panel work.
Or, would it be better to go level 3 first?
Any other advice? I'm paying for it myself, so need to consider that too.
Cheers
I've been in building services for 7 odd years and currently I have a basic City and Guilds in electrics.
I have booked myself on 17th but want to know where to go next.
Browsing Reed etc, it seems employers want 2391. Is it advisable to go straight from 17th straight into 2391? At the mo I have basic skills in fault finding, 3 phase and panel work.
Or, would it be better to go level 3 first?
Any other advice? I'm paying for it myself, so need to consider that too.
Cheers
It wont hurt to do the 17th first as its open book and quite easy, the 2391 on the other hand is a different ball game.
very high failure rate and lots of calculations etc to be done on the written exam, ive heard the pen does not leave the paper for the entire exam time!
Ive been a spark for 20 years in various industries and im pretty sure id struggle with it.
very high failure rate and lots of calculations etc to be done on the written exam, ive heard the pen does not leave the paper for the entire exam time!
Ive been a spark for 20 years in various industries and im pretty sure id struggle with it.
The 2391 (called something else now) isn't that hard, you just need to be good at maths. I did it with three others about 10 years ago. I passed first time, one lad failed and passed at the second go, the third lad failed and then give up.
I think to pass the 2391 you have to know a bit about the science of why electrics are installed in a certain way as well as how they are. I would imagine all electricians know how to fit a ring main or lighting circuit or an RCD etc but most don't know why they are doing it.
Most employers though would want experience over qualifications I would have thought, I would anyway. The 17th is a good start but is such an easy exam I cant see it carrying much weight in a job interview, its a good start though.
In my day everyone started off with parts 1 and 2 or AM1 and AM2, or whatever the equivalent was back then, but they took a couple of years to do at least.
Whatever you do dont spend hundreds on a "part P" course run by some private firm that will leave you with useless "qualifications" at the end of it. Having said that you may have to do the 17th privately as the colleges may not accept you without any previous ones. Once you have this though you should be able to do the college route for 2391 which will be cheaper.
I think to pass the 2391 you have to know a bit about the science of why electrics are installed in a certain way as well as how they are. I would imagine all electricians know how to fit a ring main or lighting circuit or an RCD etc but most don't know why they are doing it.
Most employers though would want experience over qualifications I would have thought, I would anyway. The 17th is a good start but is such an easy exam I cant see it carrying much weight in a job interview, its a good start though.
In my day everyone started off with parts 1 and 2 or AM1 and AM2, or whatever the equivalent was back then, but they took a couple of years to do at least.
Whatever you do dont spend hundreds on a "part P" course run by some private firm that will leave you with useless "qualifications" at the end of it. Having said that you may have to do the 17th privately as the colleges may not accept you without any previous ones. Once you have this though you should be able to do the college route for 2391 which will be cheaper.
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