Not accepting resignation letter...
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Can anyone explain the consequences of an employer not accepting my resignation letter please?
I'm currently under investigation for alleged misconduct at my current company but have been offered a new job which starts in a couple of days, upon handing in my resignation letter I was informed that "You're not allowed to resign under investigation", wth is this all about? As far as I'm concerned I have no ties to this employer any more so what is the actual implications of this apart from perhaps not providing a reference (Which at the moment doesn't exactly matter)?
Ta
I'm currently under investigation for alleged misconduct at my current company but have been offered a new job which starts in a couple of days, upon handing in my resignation letter I was informed that "You're not allowed to resign under investigation", wth is this all about? As far as I'm concerned I have no ties to this employer any more so what is the actual implications of this apart from perhaps not providing a reference (Which at the moment doesn't exactly matter)?
Ta
According to gov.co.uk an employer can't refuse to accept a resignation. Whether an active misconduct investigation alters this I don't know. That said, it seems strange for them to refuse it as it sounds like they ultimately want you out anyway.
You've given them your resignation and, I assume, your 'final working date' (I assume you're not planning on working a full notice period?) and I suspect bridges will be burned. I'd start the new job but does your new employer expect a reference from your current employer?
You've given them your resignation and, I assume, your 'final working date' (I assume you're not planning on working a full notice period?) and I suspect bridges will be burned. I'd start the new job but does your new employer expect a reference from your current employer?
chr15b said:
one thing to be weary of.. you might not need a reference now, but in the future??
i went for a job once that needed references for about ten years employment
That's when friends become ex bosses and you worked for companies that coincidentally aren't in business anymore. Rather surprisingly/worryingly, this exact thing worked a treat for me prior to being offered a position in a cash centre for a major high street bank.. i went for a job once that needed references for about ten years employment
With the exception of my current and immediate past employment, the rest were completely made up!mph1977 said:
the company is probably overstepping the mark, however by resigning at this time , they will assume your guilt and take much pleasure in passing this on to anyone who asks with a legitimate reason ...
And that's against the law, of course. The disciplinary process would continue regardless of whether or not the person is still employed with the company, according to the procedures of any company I've worked at. His letter doesn't need to be accepted, he just has to give the appropriate notice of his intention to finish working.
davepoth said:
mph1977 said:
the company is probably overstepping the mark, however by resigning at this time , they will assume your guilt and take much pleasure in passing this on to anyone who asks with a legitimate reason ...
And that's against the law, of course. The disciplinary process would continue regardless of whether or not the person is still employed with the company, according to the procedures of any company I've worked at. His letter doesn't need to be accepted, he just has to give the appropriate notice of his intention to finish working.
Engineer1 said:
If you have the new job well and truly in the nag then leave when your notice is up what's the worst your current employer can do?
Depends on the sector you are working in ... in health / education / social care leaving with an unresolved disciplinary can be career ending even if your are innocent or the allegation is minor.
ezi said:
The job I'm leaving is McDonald's and I'm not even management, the new job I've got my contract signed and done so it's pretty much mine 
Seem like a nice company to work forhttp://i.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/business/933237...
Did you put too much topping on a mcflurry per chance
or an extra fry in the boxspeedyguy said:
ezi said:
The job I'm leaving is McDonald's and I'm not even management, the new job I've got my contract signed and done so it's pretty much mine
Seem like a nice company to work forhttp://i.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/business/933237...
Did you put too much topping on a mcflurry per chance
or an extra fry in the boxmph1977 said:
Engineer1 said:
If you have the new job well and truly in the nag then leave when your notice is up what's the worst your current employer can do?
Depends on the sector you are working in ... in health / education / social care leaving with an unresolved disciplinary can be career ending even if your are innocent or the allegation is minor.
Seems an odd thing to do, personally if think if someone is under investigation and likely to lead to gross misconduct, and this individual wants to resign I would bite there hand off for it. As would save all the time and hassle of going through the correct process, and eliminates the chance of any appeal or unfair dismissal.
I would imagine it is someone just wanting a bit of a weird satisfaction by sacking someone rather than letting them quit.
I would imagine it is someone just wanting a bit of a weird satisfaction by sacking someone rather than letting them quit.
All that jazz said:
chr15b said:
one thing to be weary of.. you might not need a reference now, but in the future??
i went for a job once that needed references for about ten years employment
That's when friends become ex bosses and you worked for companies that coincidentally aren't in business anymore. Rather surprisingly/worryingly, this exact thing worked a treat for me prior to being offered a position in a cash centre for a major high street bank.. i went for a job once that needed references for about ten years employment
With the exception of my current and immediate past employment, the rest were completely made up!
I'm sure that it happens often, people get away with it, and if they're good in their new role that they secured despite using false statements and complicit 'friends' posing as ex employers, for the most part nothing happens, and everyone is happy...
However, there have also been a lot of high-profile cases of lies being told at interview or on CV's, being subsequently found out, and the consequences suddenly turn from 'light-hearted white lies' to at best full disciplinary procedures leading to dismissal, and at worst legal proceedings for fraud and mis-representation.
I've heard of cases where employees have been challenged on things way less dodgy than what you suggested - even fairly simple things like lying about the seniority of their previous role, and bumping up school and college qualifications - and employers (especially big corporates and interestingly American - owned companies) having a sever sense of humour failure over it, and things turning big and nasty very quickly.
In this technologically-advanced world where it is easier than ever to find out details about people and their personal history, it is just not worth being dodgy and knowingly falsifying statements and representations. Linked-in and social media play a big part in our lives and networks now.
Plus, you just never know who knows who, and whom plays golf on a Sunday with whom either. I often find that in many industries, no matter how big and national or international they are, I am amazed at how those industries are actually a bit of a 'village' and the extent of social and business relationships.
Be careful.
rb5er said:
I hope you didn`t jizz in the mayo.
Do you know me?!R1 Indy said:
I would imagine it is someone just wanting a bit of a weird satisfaction by sacking someone rather than letting them quit.
This is exactly what I'm thinking the managements stance is aswell. Thanks for the replies people, much appreciated 
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