Would you move to north or midlands for the sack of cheaper
Would you move to north or midlands for the sack of cheaper
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sdyson31

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156 posts

154 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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I am 34 yrs old married and living with two young kids and wife.

I am a software developer and moved from west Yorkshire to south 2 yrs ago, i was earning 25k in west Yorkshire as a junior developer and had a better offer from south. Now i am working as a Senior Developer and earning 44k.

We have been renting a property and there is no way we would be able to buy a house in Berkshire in next 6-8 yrs, simply because housing price is very high in south.

I can afford a house and can save more money if i earn the same salary and living in north or midlands. I have done the market research and there are only 10%-15% chances of getting a same salary in north.
Do you think it would be better for us to move to north?

There is no doubt that south has better schools and living standard is slightly higher than north or midlands or west Yorkshire.

MC Bodge

29,596 posts

204 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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sdyson31 said:
I can afford a house and can save more money if i earn the same salary and living in north or midlands. I have done the market research and there are only 10%-15% chances of getting a same salary in north.

Surely you'd have to calculate how much a decrease still makes it worthwhile?

sdyson31 said:
Do you think it would be better for us to move to north?
If you can find reasonably paying work, almost certainly.


sdyson31 said:
There is no doubt that south has better schools and living standard is slightly higher than north or midlands or west Yorkshire.
No doubt, eh? You might find that some parts of "The North" aren't quite so impoverished and primitive as others.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by living standard, but the sort of money you are earning will probably go a lot further in "The North" than it does in "The South".

The price of a house in a fairly nice area in Cheshire/Lancashire/Gtr Manchester may be only 1/2 - 2/3 that of a house in an equivalent area of the SE.

ps. "The North" covers quite a wide range of areas (From Crewe to Berwick!), as do both "the south" and "The midlands".

Edited by MC Bodge on Saturday 30th November 20:34

rog007

5,829 posts

253 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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When making career decisions, location is usually secondary to the role being the right one as part of one's ambitious trajectory to greatness. If one is not so ambitious, then location is usually more important for reasons such as affordability, proximity to family & friends and what accent could you cope with your children having (last one was slightly tongue in cheek; but I've had many clients state that as an issue). Weigh up all of the pros and cons and see where that leads you then do lots of research before committing as moving is quite an expensive and stressful business, made more so if you eventually regret it. Good luck!

New POD

3,851 posts

179 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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sdyson31 said:
Do you think it would be better for us to move to north?

There is no doubt that south has better schools and living standard is slightly higher than north or midlands or west Yorkshire.
I can't understand anyone that wants to live in the south east? Perhaps a mental block I have ? But hey, here goes .........

That bit about the schools is a fking incorrect statement. BOILS MY PISS

The south has better schools? Bullst.

Given that I live in a less deprived bit of the North West (only a mile from where numerous football players chose to live) my kids and nephews and nieces have been to the local comprehensives and sixth form colleges, and those that chose to, did very well out of it (or are doing very well).

As far as standard of living, there are numerous 3 bed semi's on our estate from £150k but average more like £180K. 4 Bed Detached would start at £250 and push on to £600K the closer to footballer's avenue. What salary would you need to get a mortgage ? £30K?

There is a waitrose and an Iceland in the town centre, along with an M&S simply food, and a morrisons local, and a Tesco store, so a choice price wise.

1.5 miles from the woods, dunes, and beach. What's not to like ?

Is there work that you could do? Liverpool is 30 mins by train (every 15 mins), Manchester is 35 miles away. (40 mins on a good day in the car, 1 hour plus in rush hour) So I would think there is work.

On the other hand, I've been contracting in Derby, and there are some nice places on the edge of the dales under £200K.

Personally I think you need to work on Self esteem and negotiation skills. Tell them you are worth £44K, if they want your skills then they'll pay you. maybe.

This has been the mistake I made for 15 years. I didn't realise what I knew was more valuable, and they were getting it cheap.




JimmyJama

27 posts

159 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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In your profession Berkshire is a good place to be; UK Silicon Valley, easy commute to London, etc.

Now I'm Berkshire born and bred and would not want to live anywhere else but not for the reasons you give. Standard of living and schools better, sounds rubbish to me. It all depends on the area you choose to live.

I've not done any research but there's got to be jobs in the cities and bigger towns in the north and the salary can't be that much different.

If your life is in the south then stick around otherwise go back.

JimmyJama

27 posts

159 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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MC Bodge

29,596 posts

204 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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JimmyJama said:
In your profession Berkshire is a good place to be; UK Silicon Valley, easy commute to London, etc.
...but £44K isn't a huge salary. I'd be surprised if something at around that level wasn't available in "The North", with a lower cost. It's certainly not uncommon for people to earn that sort of money.



JimmyJama said:
If your life is in the south then stick around otherwise go back.
Quite. Unless your career is your life, the only place you can pursue it is in Berkshire and you are attached to the area, I suggest moving further North.


The primary and high schools in our fairly affluent (but far cheaper houses than in "the south"), leafy borough (Trafford) are highly regarded at a national level (and that's not only the excellent state grammar schools that appear very close to the top of the national league tables).

Edited by MC Bodge on Sunday 1st December 12:19

jonah35

3,940 posts

186 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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Specifically what do you mean by living standards?

Also, why not see if you can get a job up north on a similar salary and take it from there?

Not sure why at 34 you cant get a house on £44k per year though. Try save more, you will still get benefits for kids and you will still be able to take advantage of govt house buying schemes and you earn more than average. Perhaps your wife could work evenings and you could both look at additional jobs?

Pickled Piper

6,452 posts

264 months

Wednesday 4th December 2013
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OP your analysis is far simplistic.