Should i move out from south
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I live in south east and thinking about moving to north or in midlands or some where else where it is cheaper to live.
I am earning 45k, i moved here in south about 2 years ago because of the new job offer. I live with my family and kids in renting accommodation. I am paying £1100 pcm rent for 3 bed house in the decent area and i am happy with the location and specially the public primary school my son goes to.
I have been thinking about moving to Manchester or West Yorkshire or midlands because it is cheaper to live there. I know that salaries are low in those areas but if i manage to get a new job with the same 45k salary then do you think it is worth making a move? I can rent a same size property in those areas on around £750 pcm and can save more money and later can buy a house.
I am earning 45k, i moved here in south about 2 years ago because of the new job offer. I live with my family and kids in renting accommodation. I am paying £1100 pcm rent for 3 bed house in the decent area and i am happy with the location and specially the public primary school my son goes to.
I have been thinking about moving to Manchester or West Yorkshire or midlands because it is cheaper to live there. I know that salaries are low in those areas but if i manage to get a new job with the same 45k salary then do you think it is worth making a move? I can rent a same size property in those areas on around £750 pcm and can save more money and later can buy a house.
Edited by SteveDyson on Saturday 15th February 22:34
As you've acknowledged - cheaper to live but lower salaries. Pretty much as you were then. That said, there are plenty of jobs paying over 40, depending what you do. I'm in West Yorkshire and currently looking for opportunities. My role seems to be in the 35+ ball park for people with my experience, though I'm currently on a lot less due to having a rather tight employer. The OH is on just over 40, so it's not all bad up here!
ETA: I see you're in IT. My place is currently looking for a Web Intelligence Manager to join their IT department at circa 37k. Depends what you do exactly.
ETA: I see you're in IT. My place is currently looking for a Web Intelligence Manager to join their IT department at circa 37k. Depends what you do exactly.
Edited by MitchT on Saturday 15th February 22:38
SteveDyson said:
I live in south east and thinking about moving to north or in midlands or some where else where it is cheaper to live.
I am earning 45k, i moved here in south about 2 years ago because of the new job offer. I live with my family and kids in renting accommodation. I am paying £1100 pcm rent for 3 bed house in the decent area and i am happy with the location and specially the public primary school my son goes to.
I have been thinking about moving to Manchester or West Yorkshire or midlands because it is cheaper to live there. I know that salaries are low in those areas but if i manage to get a new job with the same 45k salary then do you think it is worth making a move? I can rent a same size property in those areas on around £750 pcm and can save more money and later can buy a house.
I was born and bred in the South East and now live in the Midlands.I am earning 45k, i moved here in south about 2 years ago because of the new job offer. I live with my family and kids in renting accommodation. I am paying £1100 pcm rent for 3 bed house in the decent area and i am happy with the location and specially the public primary school my son goes to.
I have been thinking about moving to Manchester or West Yorkshire or midlands because it is cheaper to live there. I know that salaries are low in those areas but if i manage to get a new job with the same 45k salary then do you think it is worth making a move? I can rent a same size property in those areas on around £750 pcm and can save more money and later can buy a house.
Edited by SteveDyson on Saturday 15th February 22:34
The positives:
It's more relaxed.
It's cheaper.
There's more of a leisure culture.
It's less densely populated.
The traffic is a lot less.
People are more friendly.
The negatives:
The South is the hub of the country. The Midlands isn't.
Eleven said:
I was born and bred in the South East and now live in the Midlands.
The positives:
It's more relaxed.
It's cheaper.
There's more of a leisure culture.
It's less densely populated.
The traffic is a lot less.
People are more friendly.
The negatives:
The South is the hub of the country. The Midlands isn't.
The difference i have found so far is that schools are better here and the quality of life is slightly better, people earn more and spend more. I know people might not agree with what i said but it is just my experience.The positives:
It's more relaxed.
It's cheaper.
There's more of a leisure culture.
It's less densely populated.
The traffic is a lot less.
People are more friendly.
The negatives:
The South is the hub of the country. The Midlands isn't.
SteveDyson said:
Eleven said:
I was born and bred in the South East and now live in the Midlands.
The positives:
It's more relaxed.
It's cheaper.
There's more of a leisure culture.
It's less densely populated.
The traffic is a lot less.
People are more friendly.
The negatives:
The South is the hub of the country. The Midlands isn't.
The difference i have found so far is that schools are better here and the quality of life is slightly better, people earn more and spend more. I know people might not agree with what i said but it is just my experience.The positives:
It's more relaxed.
It's cheaper.
There's more of a leisure culture.
It's less densely populated.
The traffic is a lot less.
People are more friendly.
The negatives:
The South is the hub of the country. The Midlands isn't.
In the 90s I returned to the SE and worked in London. I earned 1.5 times as much, spent twice as much.
Quality of life sort of depends upon what one needs to make life a quality experience.
I have contemplated moving back south, but business commitments keep me here and whilst I enjoy being down there I am not sure I want to move there again. Perhaps, like a salmon, I will return home to die!
born in kent, lived in the east midlands for nearly 10 years.
I wouldn't move back.
Its true that some jobs are only in the SE, but many are and if you need to get there, its only 1 hr on the train.
My commute home is unaffected by anything which happens on the M25
ditto train/tube strikes
I can drive easily to Silverstone, rockingham, Mallory, donington, etc
Things are cheaper here
I can go for drive and not see anyone else on the road for a decent period of time
The beer isn't as good, mind...
I wouldn't move back.
Its true that some jobs are only in the SE, but many are and if you need to get there, its only 1 hr on the train.
My commute home is unaffected by anything which happens on the M25
ditto train/tube strikes
I can drive easily to Silverstone, rockingham, Mallory, donington, etc
Things are cheaper here
I can go for drive and not see anyone else on the road for a decent period of time
The beer isn't as good, mind...
Oh yes, there's something I forgot. In the SE there can tend to be a bit of bad attitude. It's difficult to describe exactly but it's a sort of sneering negativity which I haven't experienced anywhere else in the country*. It's not omnipresent but definitely there, particularly in small Kent towns.
- Though a mate from Congleton in Cheshire tells me it's a bit like there.
Eleven said:
The South is the hub of the country. The Midlands isn't.
Is the South - specifically London - really that relevant these days when most of what takes place there is stuff which could just as easily be done anywhere in the country? It's not like it's a hotbed of manufacturing, requiring people to be actually on-site sticking bits and pieces together. It strikes me that businesses place huge emphasis on London and the south for no other reason than to have an address with 'willy-waving' value, but at huge cost to themselves. I have video-conferencing meetings at work with people in the US, Europe, Middle East, Far East, etc. very easily, so why spend a fortune being based in or near London when relationships with clients, suppliers, colleagues, etc. would suffer no detriment if you based yourself in the North and saved a fortune in the process? I really don't get why we need a 'hub' at all.MitchT said:
Eleven said:
The South is the hub of the country. The Midlands isn't.
Is the South - specifically London - really that relevant these days when most of what takes place there is stuff which could just as easily be done anywhere in the country? It's not like it's a hotbed of manufacturing, requiring people to be actually on-site sticking bits and pieces together. It strikes me that businesses place huge emphasis on London and the south for no other reason than to have an address with 'willy-waving' value, but at huge cost to themselves. I have video-conferencing meetings at work with people in the US, Europe, Middle East, Far East, etc. very easily, so why spend a fortune being based in or near London when relationships with clients, suppliers, colleagues, etc. would suffer no detriment if you based yourself in the North and saved a fortune in the process? I really don't get why we need a 'hub' at all.Eleven said:
I don't disagree with anything you say, however it appears that a great many people do. Hence London and the SE continues to be the focal point of economic activity in the UK, which is borne out by house prices.
Indeed they do. I wonder how many in London choose to be there and how many are simply there because they always have been?MitchT said:
Eleven said:
I don't disagree with anything you say, however it appears that a great many people do. Hence London and the SE continues to be the focal point of economic activity in the UK, which is borne out by house prices.
Indeed they do. I wonder how many in London choose to be there and how many are simply there because they always have been?Born in NWales, lived in the south for 15 years and recently moved back to NShropshire.
It is cheaper here, even stuff like bread in the supermarket. My local has just put up my tipple (guiness) to £3.10. Services are cheaper, hairdressers, getting your shoes resoled, etc.
People are friendlier, there is less expectation and more value for friends and family.
I also find there is less competitiveness, keeping up with the Jones. If you have nice stuff people are genuinely happy for you.
On the flip, part ex valuations are lower and discounts less forthcoming.....well this is PH!
Edited to say
I wrote born in NWales for some bizarre reason. Maybe that shows you where my mind is at. I was actually born in the south of England but moved here aged 3.
It is cheaper here, even stuff like bread in the supermarket. My local has just put up my tipple (guiness) to £3.10. Services are cheaper, hairdressers, getting your shoes resoled, etc.
People are friendlier, there is less expectation and more value for friends and family.
I also find there is less competitiveness, keeping up with the Jones. If you have nice stuff people are genuinely happy for you.
On the flip, part ex valuations are lower and discounts less forthcoming.....well this is PH!
Edited to say
I wrote born in NWales for some bizarre reason. Maybe that shows you where my mind is at. I was actually born in the south of England but moved here aged 3.
Depends on what part of 'IT' you're in. I'm in IT Sales, security specifically. There's not a whole lotta jobs in vendors as most are based along the M4. I knew when I moved out of living in Surbiton to the MIdlands that I'd be limiting my options, and when I moved to Lancashire I knew I'd be limiting them further.
Family was more important to me, I can get another job, cant really get another chance to see family growing up/older. I'm in a job now through luck and remote working. From where I am, it's 40 miles to Manchester, but that could easily take 2 hours. Manchester's one of those places where if you want to work there, you need to live there. Salaries are lower up North, they just are. So I wouldnt necessarily expect you to carry over that £45k pa if you move. Best bet would be to start looking on Jobsite or whichever you choose, just set up an alert to a private email account of how many jobs come up in the sector you're in, and what the salaries are from/to.
Last thing, money aint everything. And £1100pcm would pretty much offer you a farm with acres of land
Family was more important to me, I can get another job, cant really get another chance to see family growing up/older. I'm in a job now through luck and remote working. From where I am, it's 40 miles to Manchester, but that could easily take 2 hours. Manchester's one of those places where if you want to work there, you need to live there. Salaries are lower up North, they just are. So I wouldnt necessarily expect you to carry over that £45k pa if you move. Best bet would be to start looking on Jobsite or whichever you choose, just set up an alert to a private email account of how many jobs come up in the sector you're in, and what the salaries are from/to.
Last thing, money aint everything. And £1100pcm would pretty much offer you a farm with acres of land
The couple who bought my house in Newcastle did this. He was on £45k as a company accountant. He dropped to £30k but now has a three bedroom semi with lots of garden, drive, garage, large utility, etc. He said that it was the best possible move as he was living in a bedsit in London and paying a lot more for the pleasure. His wife fell pregnant and they decided to relocate to give the baby a better life.
I'm not saying you should do it but I do think your quality of life will be better.
I'm not saying you should do it but I do think your quality of life will be better.
I did 18 months in central London. It ground me down and I got fed up. I moved back north recently and instantly feel better. The air is cleaner, the water is nicer as are the people. I still get caught by surprise at how cheap things are too especially when dining out.
Luckily I moved on the same cash but I can now get a 2 bed apartment for 30% less than what I was paying to rent a room out.
No brainer for me. But it's easy for me to say that being a northerner.
Luckily I moved on the same cash but I can now get a 2 bed apartment for 30% less than what I was paying to rent a room out.
No brainer for me. But it's easy for me to say that being a northerner.
I was born in London and lived there for 31 years till 2003 when I then moved to the North West. My OH is from the NW and when we came to buy a house we felt we would get a lot more for our money. We eventually found a 4 bedroom terraced house in a nice town for £82k!
As someone else said its friendlier up here, less traffic, more relaxed way of life. Wages are lower than the South but then so are living costs. If you love having things to do on your doorstep then you might struggle being up North depending where you are. Thats one thing that I miss about London, theres almost a never ending choice of gigs, restaurants, shows, exhibitions to choose from.
I work in IT and took voluntary redundancy last November, still havent found anything yet but then im not looking too hard at the mo and my skills are more generalist than specialist.
Funnily enough now, my wife, whose an HR Director is taking redundancy and we may have to move back down South as she will stuggle finding another role on the same salary up here.
As someone else said its friendlier up here, less traffic, more relaxed way of life. Wages are lower than the South but then so are living costs. If you love having things to do on your doorstep then you might struggle being up North depending where you are. Thats one thing that I miss about London, theres almost a never ending choice of gigs, restaurants, shows, exhibitions to choose from.
I work in IT and took voluntary redundancy last November, still havent found anything yet but then im not looking too hard at the mo and my skills are more generalist than specialist.
Funnily enough now, my wife, whose an HR Director is taking redundancy and we may have to move back down South as she will stuggle finding another role on the same salary up here.
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