Should i include bad A levels in CV?
Should i include bad A levels in CV?
Author
Discussion

Benbay001

Original Poster:

5,889 posts

186 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
quotequote all
After achieving reasonable grades at GCSE (6 Bs, 6 Cs and the rest D), i gave up at A level and achieved a string of embarrassing grades.

Should i/do you include these on your work CV?

Thank you.

Edit: my bad a levels consisted of nothing above a D.

BoRED S2upid

21,044 posts

269 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
quotequote all
I would say it depends on the job and level of education required if they ideally need Alevels including them shows you at least had a go even if they are D's if it's not required then focus more on experience.

I was refused a job once because I put my degree down in the interview he actually said " you have a degree why do you want to work here?" I wasn't expecting that.

Benbay001

Original Poster:

5,889 posts

186 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
quotequote all
I have an E in geography and am applying for a geography related job.
My effort was piss poor and am sure i could achieve much much higher.

Risotto

3,933 posts

241 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
quotequote all
Depends on your subsequent experience and further education, I'd say. If your A levels were 10 or 15 years ago and you went on to do a degree and have amassed some useful experience in the interim, I doubt anyone much cares what grades you achieved at A level - just list the subjects you achieved a pass in.

If you're only a couple of years out of school I guess the grades carry more weight.

Edit: How many GCSEs did you take?! I'd guess I did 8 or 9 back in the 90s; you seem to have done 12+. Is that the norm these days?

Edited by Risotto on Wednesday 26th February 17:35

Benbay001

Original Poster:

5,889 posts

186 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
quotequote all
Risotto said:
Depends on your subsequent experience and further education, I'd say. If your A levels were 10 or 15 years ago and you went on to do a degree and have amassed some useful experience in the interim, I doubt anyone much cares what grades you achieved at A level - just list the subjects you achieved a pass in.

If you're only a couple of years out of school I guess the grades carry more weight.
Im 21. I imagine the carry alot of weight. What do you suggest?

hadenough!

3,785 posts

289 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
quotequote all
An e is a pass right? So just state a levels in the following subjects...areas of study included...

storminnorman

2,357 posts

181 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
quotequote all
hadenough! said:
An e is a pass right? So just state a levels in the following subjects...areas of study included...
E is indeed a pass but most people regard A*-C as acceptable. I would agree with your suggestion, just state which subjects you passed. If they happen to ask for more detail, well, have an answer ready!

Benbay001

Original Poster:

5,889 posts

186 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
quotequote all
storminnorman said:
E is indeed a pass but most people regard A*-C as acceptable. I would agree with your suggestion, just state which subjects you passed. If they happen to ask for more detail, well, have an answer ready!
Would it be acceptable to admit to having not put the required effort in, in an interview?

Joey Ramone

2,155 posts

154 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
quotequote all
Benbay001 said:
Would it be acceptable to admit to having not put the required effort in, in an interview?
No. Just tell them that you fked up the exams. Never admit to giving up on anything.

Benbay001

Original Poster:

5,889 posts

186 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
quotequote all
Joey Ramone said:
No. Just tell them that you fked up the exams. Never admit to giving up on anything.
I never said i gave up. I never got going.
I went slow from day 1 on my A levels, didnt see them as important, didnt have any particular career in mind.
I guess i shouldn't confess to that.

storminnorman

2,357 posts

181 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
quotequote all
I would say there's nothing wrong to owning up if you can back it up with what you've learned from it, how you've improved, and what you've achieved since.
Saying you fked up in exams is no good because some would see that as not being able to handle pressure, and passing off your failure onto something else. Admitting you made a mistake, have learned from it, and want to make up for it, shows a more mature person.

Let's go back to the question - I wouldn't include the specific grades as said above, but the bigger issue is how you're going to handle it should it come up in an interview. At the end of the day how you answer is up to you - I would be inclined to tell the truth, but just saying "yeah I didn't put the effort in" and staring blankly until the next question will not cut it.

For the record I can count my GCSEs on one hand so I know how it feels to be in this position.

z4chris99

12,517 posts

208 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
quotequote all
I presume no uni degree?

Dalto123

3,205 posts

192 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
quotequote all
I got D's at AS and A2. It's a pass, so I just put on my CV that I've gained A levels in whatever subjects I took. Hasn't held me back in getting a job smile

Loosenut

34 posts

158 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
quotequote all
Dalto123 said:
I got D's at AS and A2. It's a pass, so I just put on my CV that I've gained A levels in whatever subjects I took. Hasn't held me back in getting a job smile
Second this i just put passed next to the A levels and has never be questioned. Like others say be prepared it you are asked what grade you achieved.

Technically you did pass just with a bad score so you are not lying just not stating the full fact up front.

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
quotequote all
Benbay001 said:
Joey Ramone said:
No. Just tell them that you fked up the exams. Never admit to giving up on anything.
I never said i gave up. I never got going.
I went slow from day 1 on my A levels, didnt see them as important, didnt have any particular career in mind.
I guess i shouldn't confess to that.
Exactly true. The trick with a CV is to gloss over the bad stuff, and focus on the good stuff.

Meanwhile, if you really do want to get a geography related job, have you considered having another go at the A-Level? If you're motivated you'll almost be guaranteed a better grade. It'll cost about £500.

New POD

3,851 posts

179 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
quotequote all
I would put them. You are only 21, and I want to know what you did in the 5 years from 16 to 21. I wouldn't put the grades.


These days I don't ever mention my D, E and O level pass as 29 years is water under the bridge, although I might in interview if asked if I've ever failed at anything, I will explain that I screwed up my A levels due to motorbikes, beer and women, and I've spent the last 29 years attempting to put that right.

Andehh

7,593 posts

235 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
quotequote all
I'm in the same boat but with a decent degree. I have always listed what A levels or AS I took, but don't mention the grades. If I am in front of someone and I ask, I can then explain I was a prat, didn't work but learnt my lesson the hard way!

richatnort

3,204 posts

160 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
quotequote all
I'd think what you want to do and go too college again. You'll have a goal too make sure you do well! I did terrible in my a levels and got 2 a levels at grade c and d and 1 as grade c. Got into uni and put my head down and came out with a 2:1 and now have a great job! I'm only 23 but you have to think what you want to do career wise first!

Benbay001

Original Poster:

5,889 posts

186 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
quotequote all
Thank you guys, all taken on board.
Ive decided to include the qualifications, just not the grade.
If asked, i am more than happy to explain my poor grades in an interview. I messed about.
But my god, it makes me appreciate how quickly we grow up since leaving college.

storminnorman

2,357 posts

181 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
quotequote all
Benbay001 said:
Thank you guys, all taken on board.
Ive decided to include the qualifications, just not the grade.
If asked, i am more than happy to explain my poor grades in an interview. I messed about.
But my god, it makes me appreciate how quickly we grow up since leaving college.
Good luck with the job hunting.
By the way, it's never too late to redo A-levels - I've just finished mine off age 22.