You've re-applied twice...

[Anubis]

Hold on before you think I've made the schoolboy mistake of applying for the same role twice through different agencies. I haven't.

About a month ago a random recruitment agency phoned me up with a suitable role. Got the full job spec sent through by email (I requested it) and verbally agreed for them to send my CV to client. As usual, nothing heard from them after a couple of phone calls / chasing to see if the client got back. After about 10 days passed from initial call I try my luck and call again only to be told by this agency the role has now been filled.

All was forgotten and I've deleted the original spec / email sent to me. I have forgotten who the agency was and never saw the advert again. Nothing out of the norm.

Roll on 4 weeks. Earlier this week, I see a vaguely similar job description advertised so apply again. New agency tells me the name of their client (it's the same one as before); I state I've never been interviewed by them (true) or that I'm currently being represented by an agency for this role (again true, from my point of view). I was told the job was filled, so can only assume they want another member for their growing team.

I get a phone call today inviting me to an interview next week. All great and happy to attend. Smile on face.

Now the problem...

1 hour passes and get another call but this time they are saying I've already applied to this role and their client already have my CV from before. I explain what happened previously over a month ago with the old agency, I have no proof since I deleted everything as it's been ages since original application, which I was told had been filled (turns out it's for exactly the same job as before).

So now I'm a little confused about how to deal with this (if at all).

The girl from the new agency who has secured me an interview says they want to see me but it's left them in a bad situation as they can't represent me if someone else already has. She's gone away to speak to her boss and openly admits it's cutting them out from the deal.

As far as I see it, I had no idea it was for the exact same role. I was told it was filled a month ago by the first agency (who, for the life of me cannot remember who they were or have any proof of this).

Anyone been in this situation before? Don't really want to jeopardise this as the way I see it I haven't done anything wrong.

Still waiting for final confirmation of interview for next week - all I know is, that they would like to see me.

[Shaoxter]

Use Gmail, never have to delete an email again

[Anubis]

Quick update:

The client have literally just got into contact with me via email inviting me to the interview. I can see this becoming a storm between the client and recruitment agency by cutting them out.

I don't want to be dragged into awkward situations between them; essentially the agency getting cut out the deal since the client themselves (a large corporate) have contacted me directly.

Meh...I think I'm just going to have to go along for the ride; turn up at the interview and do what the client wants regardless. That's what it boils down to at the end of the day...

[Tyre Smoke]

Do you want the job? Assuming it's what you want and they want you, let them fight it out with the agency. An agency won't risk upsetting a big company, because there will be other opportunities.

Not your problem now, since the company has contacted you directly.

[surveyor]

Why would the agency think they can't act for you? I'm pretty sure they will be acting for the employer and are more bothered about whether they will get paid or not.... I see this as their problem...

[Sonic]

anonymous said:

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Absolutely this.

You've got an opportunity for face-time with the employer so the agency have served their purpose... let them deal with it however they wish behind the scenes, it's not your problem.

[Gargamel]

The deal here is that it is the agency that secured the interview for you that are entitled to the fee, since they made the actual introduction.

The previous agency didn't secure the interview, and so I don't have a leg to stand on at this point.

However you have a contractual relationship with neither, so go to the interview, don't worry about the agency politics and best of luck

[Terminator X]

Why line the pockets of a useless agency? Just send an email to new agency saying that if offered a job via old agency you won't accept it? That way old agency won't get the sale and if new company want you it must be via new agency. Or as others have said just let others battle it out.

TX.

[mondeoman]

Gargamel said:

The deal here is that it is the agency that secured the interview for you that are entitled to the fee, since they made the actual introduction.

The previous agency didn't secure the interview, and so I don't have a leg to stand on at this point.

However you have a contractual relationship with neither, so go to the interview, don't worry about the agency politics and best of luck

So not true, but I'll get to that shortly. First thing is go to the interview and do your best, the rest is not your problem.

Now, the first agency is most likely due the fee, as they affected the introduction (according to the client at least): most agencies terms will cover this by a clause that says "made aware of" or something similar, which is why the second agency were upset. Why the first agency didn't organise you an interview originally I've no idea, but at this stage it doesn't matter, although their manager should be concerned that the staff are that lax!

[Gargamel]

mondeoman said:

Gargamel said:

The deal here is that it is the agency that secured the interview for you that are entitled to the fee, since they made the actual introduction.

The previous agency didn't secure the interview, and so I don't have a leg to stand on at this point.

However you have a contractual relationship with neither, so go to the interview, don't worry about the agency politics and best of luck

So not true, but I'll get to that shortly. First thing is go to the interview and do your best, the rest is not your problem.

Now, the first agency is most likely due the fee, as they affected the introduction (according to the client at least): most agencies terms will cover this by a clause that says "made aware of" or something similar, which is why the second agency were upset. Why the first agency didn't organise you an interview originally I've no idea, but at this stage it doesn't matter, although their manager should be concerned that the staff are that lax!

Just for reference I worked in and managed agencies for fifteen years [enfield] hardest game in the world...[/Enfield]

Agency 1 will struggle to get paid, regardless of their terms of business. I am aware that the "fight" is on, but I think if if the first agency called the op and told him it was over, then they have missed their chance.

Appreciate other former recruiters might take a perfectly reasonable contrary view, but I don't think Agency 1 will be able to make it stick.

As a client I have made a 50 50 fee split stick in these situations too....

[Engineer1]

Given how poorly some agencies communicate they deserve to miss out, I'm job hunting now and have no idea exactly who has passed my CV where given some say they will approach potential employers who aren't currently actively looking for employees.

[mondeoman]

Gargamel said:

mondeoman said:

Gargamel said:

The deal here is that it is the agency that secured the interview for you that are entitled to the fee, since they made the actual introduction.

The previous agency didn't secure the interview, and so I don't have a leg to stand on at this point.

However you have a contractual relationship with neither, so go to the interview, don't worry about the agency politics and best of luck

So not true, but I'll get to that shortly. First thing is go to the interview and do your best, the rest is not your problem.

Now, the first agency is most likely due the fee, as they affected the introduction (according to the client at least): most agencies terms will cover this by a clause that says "made aware of" or something similar, which is why the second agency were upset. Why the first agency didn't organise you an interview originally I've no idea, but at this stage it doesn't matter, although their manager should be concerned that the staff are that lax!

Just for reference I worked in and managed agencies for fifteen years [enfield] hardest game in the world...[/Enfield]

Agency 1 will struggle to get paid, regardless of their terms of business. I am aware that the "fight" is on, but I think if if the first agency called the op and told him it was over, then they have missed their chance.

Appreciate other former recruiters might take a perfectly reasonable contrary view, but I don't think Agency 1 will be able to make it stick.

As a client I have made a 50 50 fee split stick in these situations too....

12 yrs in recruitment here, and I'd tend to agree that agency 1 will struggle, but thats a fight between the company and the agencies, not the company and the OP, who should just attend the interview (if he wants to) and leave the politics to the agencies