Well paid jobs when you're 15 years passed GCSE's
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A lot of jobs still ask for A-C grade GCSE's in certain subjects for you to be able to apply for a job, but what if you're 15 years passed doing them with insufficient grades but are perhaps more intelligent/life experienced now?
Asking out of interest as a family member is a Prison Officer considering their options, They're in the SOuth West of England but from Wales what options there are considering they'd need a smililar wage (est £28k.
I did see water companies offering apprenticships/traineeships at £15k a year for 18 months which they could cope with for that time period (currently living with in laws to save for a house so no major expenses) but they ask for the aforementioned grades.
Anyone offer any input/experience where a return to school to obtain the aforementioned grades in not required?
Asking out of interest as a family member is a Prison Officer considering their options, They're in the SOuth West of England but from Wales what options there are considering they'd need a smililar wage (est £28k.
I did see water companies offering apprenticships/traineeships at £15k a year for 18 months which they could cope with for that time period (currently living with in laws to save for a house so no major expenses) but they ask for the aforementioned grades.
Anyone offer any input/experience where a return to school to obtain the aforementioned grades in not required?
Yeah many employers like the water works ones that have appealed say you 'must have' the relevant GCSE grades. What I'm asking is there any decent paid jobs circa £30k where the grades aren't an absolute requirement as they are 15 years removed form doing GCSE's and it'd be a task to have to retake exams simply to be eligible....
I always like the...
We require a 1st class honours degree from an established uni, plus 3-5 years in the industry.
This is for not even a top tier company.
I dont qualify as I got a 2.2 degree from a fake uni... Yet I do have 14 years experience at the biggest companies (same industry) in the world, currently pimping out consulting to them at the moment.
Dont qualify at all... Last one was quite funny as the hiring manager dismissed my CV, I said to the recruiter that tell him his old trainer says hello when I heard of the rejection as it was due to my 2.2 that I was rejected... Since I trained him I might just know what Im talking about with tech and business... got a call back 2 hours later asking if I would like to do an interview... too late had got an offer of contract with another company.
We require a 1st class honours degree from an established uni, plus 3-5 years in the industry.
This is for not even a top tier company.
I dont qualify as I got a 2.2 degree from a fake uni... Yet I do have 14 years experience at the biggest companies (same industry) in the world, currently pimping out consulting to them at the moment.
Dont qualify at all... Last one was quite funny as the hiring manager dismissed my CV, I said to the recruiter that tell him his old trainer says hello when I heard of the rejection as it was due to my 2.2 that I was rejected... Since I trained him I might just know what Im talking about with tech and business... got a call back 2 hours later asking if I would like to do an interview... too late had got an offer of contract with another company.
in theory the requirement for GCSE at A*-C in Maths and english is meant to ensure a basic standard of literacy and numeracy - and usdually if you do a wee bit of digging there are other alternatives accepted - various Literacy / Numeracy / key skills certifcates at NQF level 2 ( as 'floating' GCSEs are a NQF level 2 where D-G are level 1 - reflecting the the situation where CSE was the lesser qualification than O levels )
I've noticed a lot of graduate schemes put emphasis on A-levels too now. I was rejected by the Navy (as an officer) due to my poor A-level results, which I got over 10 years ago, despite having travelled the world, trained in a naval establishment for 2 years, working in the defence industry and having a degree.
I got my degree from the Open Uni, so didn't require UCAS points to start it, just a good attitude and dedication, but it seems like a mistake now as most grad schemes want people who were perfectly academic through their entire lives. The amount of people for job opportunities seem to be the reason behind all the requirements these days - just to cut down on the number of applicants and sift them early on. There seems to be fewer and fewer exceptions to this rule now too unfortunately.
I got my degree from the Open Uni, so didn't require UCAS points to start it, just a good attitude and dedication, but it seems like a mistake now as most grad schemes want people who were perfectly academic through their entire lives. The amount of people for job opportunities seem to be the reason behind all the requirements these days - just to cut down on the number of applicants and sift them early on. There seems to be fewer and fewer exceptions to this rule now too unfortunately.
Xaero said:
I've noticed a lot of graduate schemes put emphasis on A-levels too now. I was rejected by the Navy (as an officer) due to my poor A-level results, which I got over 10 years ago, despite having travelled the world, trained in a naval establishment for 2 years, working in the defence industry and having a degree.
I got my degree from the Open Uni, so didn't require UCAS points to start it, just a good attitude and dedication, but it seems like a mistake now as most grad schemes want people who were perfectly academic through their entire lives. The amount of people for job opportunities seem to be the reason behind all the requirements these days - just to cut down on the number of applicants and sift them early on. There seems to be fewer and fewer exceptions to this rule now too unfortunately.
True but those that are perfectly academic (grads usually) are a nightmare to work with... no common sense, no initiative, no life skills... basically need to be spoon fed with work, will sit there when stuck or not understanding something, even if its for days on end.I got my degree from the Open Uni, so didn't require UCAS points to start it, just a good attitude and dedication, but it seems like a mistake now as most grad schemes want people who were perfectly academic through their entire lives. The amount of people for job opportunities seem to be the reason behind all the requirements these days - just to cut down on the number of applicants and sift them early on. There seems to be fewer and fewer exceptions to this rule now too unfortunately.
Give me someone with non perfect grades and several years in the industry over a 1st class honors student fresh out of a red brick any day.
Du1point8 said:
True but those that are perfectly academic (grads usually) are a nightmare to work with... no common sense, no initiative, no life skills... basically need to be spoon fed with work, will sit there when stuck or not understanding something, even if its for days on end.
Give me someone with non perfect grades and several years in the industry over a 1st class honors student fresh out of a red brick any day.
One of the problems there is that most people with several years' experience will be looking for a higher wage than a red brick grad.Give me someone with non perfect grades and several years in the industry over a 1st class honors student fresh out of a red brick any day.
22s said:
One of the problems there is that most people with several years' experience will be looking for a higher wage than a red brick grad.
Bingo!As exhibited by a few threads on here, even grads with enough letters after their names to fill a a4 business card were willing to work for peanuts.
Can't remember what was on the job description for latest role, certainly that I need a degree (I don't) of some level, and industry exp. I think I removed all of my actual grades form my CV to make room for more background on what I've achieved in the industry I work in, far more relevant, if someone wants to ask me what grade I got for maths 10 years ago I'll tell them, but I'm not wasting space writing it down!
briangriffin said:
Yeah many employers like the water works ones that have appealed say you 'must have' the relevant GCSE grades. What I'm asking is there any decent paid jobs circa £30k where the grades aren't an absolute requirement as they are 15 years removed form doing GCSE's and it'd be a task to have to retake exams simply to be eligible....
I know someone who is about to start their new job on Monday who had one of the 15 odd 'must have' points on the requirements list...As a prison officer they can retake them through the prison service so that may be the route to take. English will be a struggle though as they are dyslexic. It was one of my strong points in school though so at least i can help out on that front.
Edited by briangriffin on Wednesday 14th May 23:40
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